Im tired of this!

[USA Trucker]

Originally Posted by Elwenil

As for trolling, to me, trolling is posting something for the express reason of getting a hostile response.

This is exactly what you did.

Your apology is hopefully accepted by the other 2 members, and we can all move forward. You have your right to your opinions about the game as long a it is posted properly, and not continually repeated (the other definition of a troll, and there are a few of them). You have said your piece. It's over. I think I have been very tolerant on this matter. I will allow responses to your post in general, but if anyone sways back to the insults, or hostilities, I will take the appropriate action toward the offender.

[M76]

Minimum system requirements back in the days meant the oldest computer you could actually run the game on. It didn't mean it will be smooth or flawlessly playable. Its only a new apporach to set the minimum requirements where the game will actually be playable on medium-high graphics settings. Propably because gaming is more mainstream nowadays, and casual gamers won't understand why won't the game run smoothly, as we can see here.

[Lolsmurf]

Don't compare rig'n roll with a football game, when you're driving the models keep on changing and loading (thousands of different models) in PES once the game is loaded you have all the models already loaded and can play without problems...

Dont underestimatie RNR it is a quite heavy game because of the ever changing scenery without any loading screens !

As I already said, I m playing the game with a Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz and 1 Gb RAM - Nvidia Gforce 8600 GT 512 mb and I can run this game on medium -low...

First, I don't compare RigNRoll with PES.

I compare the minimum requirements of 2 games and see what the difference between the 2.
I don't mind that RigNRoll is Heavy or what so ever.

My PC meet the minimum on both games but
PES is playable
RigNRoll is unplayable (bugs & crashes)

When I hear all your arguments about it, We should consider informing the world of the new aspect of purchasing a game :

"If your PC only meet minimum requirements, don't expect the game to be supported nor the game to be working on your PC." These requirements are just displayed to fool customers and get more money from them.

[USA Trucker]

Originally Posted by centy2010

First, I don't compare RigNRoll with PES.

I compare the minimum requirements of 2 games and see what the difference between the 2.
I don't mind that RigNRoll is Heavy or what so ever.

My PC meet the minimum on both games but
PES is playable
RigNRoll is unplayable (bugs & crashes)

When I hear all your arguments about it, We should consider informing the world of the new aspect of purchasing a game :

"If your PC only meet minimum requirements, don't expect the game to be supported nor the game to be working on your PC." These requirements are just displayed to fool customers and get more money from them.

You are comparing the two games no matter how you dress it up, and this is a forum, not customer support. However, I do try to answer everyones questions to the best of my ability. You just don't like the answer, and turn your frustration toward the people/person trying to help. As Lolsmurf, others, and I have said before, the game is playable, just not to peak performance, and some of you will have more difficulties at the 'Minimal Requirements'. This is no different from Half-Life, Doom3, GTA4 & ME2 to name a few. Try playing them with 'Minimal Requirement'. It's unfair to single out 1C or Rig 'N' Roll for flaws that many games have running at 'Minimal Requirements'. As I've also said before, I believe the 'Minimal Requirements' should be taken out of the equation, and just list the 'Recommended Requirements'. This would solve all problems (or at least most).

[M76]

Originally Posted by centy2010

First, I don't compare RigNRoll with PES.

RigNRoll is unplayable (bugs & crashes)

Wait a minute, the bugs and crashes are not closely related to the system requirements. My computer specs are way over even the recommended system and I still have bugs and crashes.

[USA Trucker]

Originally Posted by M76

Wait a minute, the bugs and crashes are not closely related to the system requirements. My computer specs are way over even the recommended system and I still have bugs and crashes.

They most certainly are. I can't answer for your system because you continue to report problems without giving your computer specs., (at least I don't remember seeing them) so that I, or others can possibly find the error, or problem. You might have something wrong that you are not aware of. You are also the first one that I know of that has the Retail DVD Version, that could very well be associated with some of your problems.

I far exceed the 'Recommended Requirements', and the only glitches I have encountered is the following:

Sometimes the graphics in the cut-scenes spawn 2 heads, and in others the voice cuts off. The voices also cuts off during some CB calls, and once I had a car appear out of nowhere in front of me. It's a good thing I had a save point just prior to it. I have not seen it since then. Other then that, I have experienced no other problems, and I'm on my third game playing from the start. On my other computer I slightly exceed the 'Minimal Requirements' and had the same issues that everyone else is reporting. I obviously no longer play it on that one.

[M76]

Originally Posted by USA Trucker

They most certainly are. I can't answer for your system because you continue to report problems without giving your computer specs., (at least I don't remember seeing them) so that I, or others can possibly find the error, or problem. You might have something wrong that you are not aware of. You are also the first one that I know of that has the Retail DVD Version, that could very well be associated with some of your problems.

I far exceed the 'Recommended Requirements', and the only glitches I have encountered is the following:

Sometimes the graphics in the cut-scenes spawn 2 heads, and in others the voice cuts off. The voices also cuts off during some CB calls, and once I had a car appear out of nowhere in front of me. It's a good thing I had a save point just prior to it. I have not seen it since then. Other then that, I have experienced no other problems, and I'm on my third game playing from the start. On my other computer I slightly exceed the 'Minimal Requirements' and had the same issues that everyone else is reporting. I obviously no longer play it on that one.

Are you accusing me that I make up the bugs or what? I didn't post my system specs because firstly I don't like waving what I have in front of other people, secondly because I didn't feel the exact system specs are in any way relevant to the bugs.

I already listed the bugs I encountered but there is no hurt in repeating, I also had the two heads bug, and the voice cutting out. Also cars spawning out of nowhere (however that's very rare) More annoying is the bug with the collosion detection when two ai cars go into each other, and either go through one another, or sometimes one of the cars or trucks is sent flying all over the place. Also when I saved just after I received an order, after loading back the save I kept getting the same call over and over again. Also sometimes the main character has no eyes when going into repair stations (or its constantly closed I can't decide) Also had a bug, when I was hauling a load, but when I arrived to the destination the job finished but the trailer didn't disappear and I didn't get my reward, but the job was gone from the journal. But the trailer did disappear when I completed another mission where there was no load, so it seems the game mixed up the loads.

Anyway my system roughly looks like this: Intel® Core™ i7-930 | RADEON HD5850 | DDR3-2000 6 GB | Kingston SSDNow V Series | Windows 7 64bit Enterprise

Originally Posted by Pete379exhd

but I think a lot of us were expecting it to be a lot more like the 18 wos games and unfortunatly it's not..

I was hoping, no that not the right word, I knew it will be nothing like 18wos, and fortunately it isn't.

[Nuclear Cat]

Originally Posted by USA Trucker

... You are also the first one that I know of that has the Retail DVD Version, that could very well be associated with some of your problems...

What does that mean exactly? You suggesting/owning up that there is something wrong with the retail DVD version? Curiously this is what I also have! Maybe there IS a reason it was in the bargain basement bin.