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Old 06-10-2010, 03:03 PM
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zauii ... It's simple business logic, first-year fundamental in fact, but it bears repetition as Ubisoft and EA have forgotten it. They want me to buy their product so they have to make an offer I can't resist. That kind of DRM sours any deal for me so if any publisher wants me to spend my hard-earned cash on their game they have to think hard before they install such draconic and (to me) inacceptable hurdles and treat me as potential criminal. If they think they can ... Well, my life doesn't evolve around PC gaming. I can live without buying new PC games (Il-2 works perfectly, doesn't it?) but I doubt publishers can live for long without the money many many people used to spend on their products (and now abstain because of DRM). It'll take some time for the message to find its way into the upper echelons (and I wish it would travel faster because everyone should boycot such business policies, but then I'm such an idealist at times ) but I hope all the bean counters who place their hopes on that particular system trip and fall over so hard they need a new nose to replace the crushed old one.

I've said my part ... And now we switch back to our regular program.
In the end its as simple as you care about it(DRM) whilst i don't.
You are willing to pass a great product if it has a shitty DRM, i am not.

That's the bottom line of our personal opinions

That said i am still not a customer who would buy a pay-per-month fee, but heck RoF didn't have a pay-per-month fee and neither is SoW
as far as we know so i personally don't see a problem.(my point of view) Having SecureRom , Constant Internet Connection with more requirements
have nothing to do with pay-per-month models or equivalent fantasies and i am totally fine with these kinda solutions, besides i don't really see buying a game as a life investment.

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Old 06-10-2010, 06:54 PM
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It just feels like i have to ask permission to the developers every time i want to use something i've already payed for,imagine having to ask permission to the manufacturer everytime you want to use your car...........i know,you can't download a car...............not yet!

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Old 06-10-2010, 10:32 PM
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The bottom line, as you said zauii, is. That people like you, as the picture your comments are painting, are the wet dream of every politician or revenue oriented businesses.
To sell ones future for a short or intermediate gain.
Dont understand me wrong, this isn't meant as a personal attack!
You are just here now and represent the people without a social consience.
"It works for me, who cares about the people which have problems with it"
Nobody says everybody has to be as Mother Theresa, but building a foundation for such a DRM model with all the negative possibilities and no gain for the customer or the programmer, hell, everybody, with at least a little bit consience left, should oppose it.
To repeat it again: This DRM Model doesn't work! It gets hacked as fast as any other at this time. The only people who are inconvenienced are the regular, paying customers.
Sorry, to much wine, i start babbling, but then again in vino veritas
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:52 PM
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The bottom line, as you said zauii, is. That people like you, as the picture your comments are painting, are the wet dream of every politician or revenue oriented businesses.
To sell ones future for a short or intermediate gain.
Dont understand me wrong, this isn't meant as a personal attack!
You are just here now and represent the people without a social consience.
"It works for me, who cares about the people which have problems with it"
Nobody says everybody has to be as Mother Theresa, but building a foundation for such a DRM model with all the
negative possibilities and no gain for the customer or the programmer, hell, everybody, with at least a little bit consience left, should oppose it.

To repeat it again: This DRM Model doesn't work! It gets hacked as fast as any other at this time. The only people who are inconvenienced are the regular, paying customers.
Sorry, to much wine, i start babbling, but then again in vino veritas
No offense taken,

Anyway

Well i am not gonna miss out on great products because of the DRM as
long as the DRM is not unreasonable , say a pay-per-month for an FPS.

I've never paid for an MMO or Pay-Per-Month in my life so to answer your
statement i am in no way without a social conciseness for these models.
I am simply willing to accept it as long as it's on reasonable terms and a constant
internet connection requirement is defiantly okay with me, especially in 2010 with all the piracy.

We do live in 2010 and not 1999 anymore where CD-KEY's were written on the
back of the actual boxes and piracy was just about minimal online.

Anyway why don't you go ahead and list all the games that we should
boycott to support the great foundation of none-DRM's? Don't be so paranoid.

I am in no way a company's wet dream , i don't fall for cheap products neither do i buy
DLC or care about skins or any other consolified crap with the last generation.
I just don't see how you even can make that connection simply because i am willing
to accept some types of DRM's.

There is no indication that SOW will use any pay-per month model , if it requires a online activation
or a constant stream so be it, it benefits the company in terms of less piracy, and it doesn't hurt the
customers in any way , unless you want to start thinking in all the possible scenarios.

I don't generally think of all the possible ways i could die on every time i step outside my house..

It's a 50 $ investment, again it's not a car or a house. Support the companies for their hard work instead.
Some people just don't get it until they've been in the business themselves

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Old 06-11-2010, 06:04 AM
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If it would relly help against piracy, i would cry out a LITTLE less!
It does hurt the (possible) customers.
And, yes ,i believe SoW will not use this crap.
And SoW will be, as i hope, a investment of very much of my spare time in the future.
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:04 AM
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If it would relly help against piracy, i would cry out a LITTLE less!
It does hurt the (possible) customers.
And, yes ,i believe SoW will not use this crap.
And SoW will be, as i hope, a investment of very much of my spare time in the future.
No it doesn't hurt anyone, it prevents people that doesn't have broadband to stay online/connected that's all. Again it's 2010 where you find internet in just about every second home, of any modern society.
How your spare time connects & is relevant with what DRM the game uses i've no idea but sure whatever.. lol.

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Old 06-11-2010, 09:08 AM
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Again it's 2010 where you find internet in every second home, of any modern society.
How your spare time connects with what DRM the game uses i've no idea but sure whatever.. lol.
Believe it or not but the entire world does not have 24/7 internet conectivity.
Also for someone connected 24/7 please update your sig? Rise of flight and Arma 2 were released ages ago
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