Artillery

[KnightFandragon]

I know Katyushas are butter but killing tanks w/ Hummels? how haha. Ive fired that hummel and it just hits the top of the tank, if it hits at all and just stuns the crew and makes a big explosion, thats it. I usually play with arty off b/c it lags the crap outta this PC im on haha. Also, Canyon, Road and Winter Church are 3 maps that are on my never play list and i never have...hate those 3. I despise small maps in any game, so Warehouse is kinda on there to lol. But yeah, Canyon with Artillery is purely for noobs haha. The Hummel the other day i used it from like 130away and it missed its target by about 30m and it was way long but it hit a glob of my enemies infantry and got like 8 dudes. Was a nice shot but my target was some 57mm ZiS4. How is the Su 152 no good? Ive seen it and it has killed my King Tigers on the frontal hull in 1 shot, blowing it into 50 pieces. Id consider that good, plus its pretty accurate. The Su152 and KV2 and Calliope are prolly the best Arty pieces, they are armored and artillery

[[SOE]No.Mam]

i realy hate this heavy arty in MoW. spawning this units dont need any tactical gameplay & this heavy arty can destroy 95% of all tanks.

i think all heavy arty is too powerfull & to accurate. heavy arty should support infantry and not tankkiller #1.

[Crni vuk]

Originally Posted by KnightFandragon

I know Katyushas are butter but killing tanks w/ Hummels? how haha.

With a hit to the engine or the top of the turret. Its dificult with heavy armor. But it can work sometimes. I destroyed pershings, panthers and other tanks that way. Though not intentionaly usualy. Its more a rare situation. And takes 2 Hummels since its increasing the rate of fire.

Originally Posted by KnightFandragon

How is the Su 152 no good?

Cause its neither a good tank killer nor a good artillery. Its a "do it all" unit.

To be a succesfull tank killer it lacks the needed accuracy. To be a succesfull artillery unit it has not enough shells, lacks range and compared to usual artillery the arc of fire is to flat (buildings and obstacles can block it). The SU122 for example is a better infantry support unit it can fire fast is quite powerfull and has enough shells. It also can be deployed behind obstacles. The ISU152 is far from beeing useless. Its a nice unit if deployed carefully and I prefer it to the SU100 cause the ISU has also a 12mm MG on its top which is extremly usefull. But its easy to take it out once you spoted it cause as already said its size makes it visible and easy to hit. The ISUs gun makes a big part of its front which means to hit it is very likely loost my ISU that way often enough cause the acuracy isnt that great and the enemy would damage the gun. Killing the Tiger II from the front is also more a rare situation It never happend to me (it was always a shot to the side or the side of the turret while aiming at the enemy). Remember the turret of the Tiger II is quite vulnerable on its side. I would like to see more effects when the Tiger II is hit by the ISU HE shell on the front. Maybe not destryong the vhicle but killing the crew inside eventualy.

But well artillery isnt the first choice of killing tanks though. Dont forget it happens many times that at some point most of the infantry is dead with artillery and they will start to shoot tanks. It usualy doesnt take it out with the first hit though.

And by the way artillery has been used a few times to destroy tanks. Of course not with one gun but with a whole barrage involving several guns. But still.

[KnightFandragon]

For sure it doesnt have enough ammo, like the IS2/3 its got like 20 shells and thats it. I think most Arty units in this game have low ammo count. The ISU is a big target and easy ot hit but it has the armor, both frontal and side to take the blows. Only from 90 or less in game and with a few very lucky, well placed shots w/ a King Tiger have I killed a SU152. Its armored well for sure, that alone would make me buy it over the rest of those SU's which are armored not that much better then the T34. Sure Ammo is a slight issue for the Russian big guns but thats what the Ammo truck is for, I usually cart one of those around somewhere in my rear lines

[[SOE]No.Mam]

ISU-152 is the worst tankkiller #1 ingame. with ISU-152 HE ammo you can kill all tanks till jagdpanther, pershing, tiger, centurion .... frontaly without any problems (useing max. range).
killing ISU-152 frontaly needs >100mm penetration -> at this distance ISU-152 can kill most tanks frontaly with HE or AP.

sometimes i saw ISU-152 or KV-2 killed KTs frontaly with HE -> HE hit turret from KT -> KT lost whole turret. LOL

same with HE from IS-2 or IS-3 against tiger/panther/pershing. HE hit turret -> tank lost whole turret.