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Old 05-26-2010, 08:53 AM
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TNT isnt cheating, its just annoying...as for Gamekillers, you mean people who start the server and just quit? or what
When the host writes NO TNT and you abide by the rule only for someone to sneek up and blow your tanks is cheating.

Sorry I meant to say Teamkiller not gamekiller, basically people who deliberately leave the team in trouble or do nothing to help but the worst one is a the one going round tnt own tanks and passing unit to another player before it explodes so it looks like other person has done it, I had this experience recently on river map.

Last week on port map I was on right flank and someone was passing me panzerwerfer from behind left rock when it had run out of ammo. Why ? so they don't lose points if it gets hit ?
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Old 05-25-2010, 07:17 PM
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Often you get pros who all stack a team and kick new players who take thier slot, so as you get a team of eg 3 pros (not clanners or anything like that), against 2 one star people and 1 noob. No one has a sense of balance and everyone is more interested in having a steam-roll game.

Yes, sometimes this happens. The culprits are a bunch of cunts tho, tbh.
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:38 PM
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TNT in tanks was very common then and still is today. Its only realistic. Often, tanks would find themselves cut off by hedge hogs or rubble that only TNT would suffice.

The only thing I really have against MP games is the spawncamping. Really annoying now and then.
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:27 PM
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i've been playing for quite some time now. These feelings have been building up and after a fustrating night i want to see if im alone on this. This game has the worst community for a game i have ever seen.

-agreed

never have i played a game filled with people with dial up connections, slow laggy pc's, dodgy internet connections which disconnects, and the most unwelcoming attitude to new players.

-also agreed, but considering kids usually play video games, this is normal

tonight i've spent 20mins trying to get into a game. After 5mins of waiting in the lobby for players to come, the host is afk and so we all wait around for a couple of mins. The game starts and we start loading. Except one of the people has timed out and we're stuck on a 10 minute loading screen to tell us that he's timed out. So the game is restart and the same thing happens 2nd time round.

-this needs to be fixed badly. I'd play this game so much more if there were servers that could host games. They shouldn't bother releasing an xpac until they have the goods to back up multiplayer. Furthermore, i've yet to connect successfully to an automatch game.

When we do finally get into the game, some guy rage quits after 5minues of playing.

-why can't the ai take over in this situation???

At least once every other game, someone times out during the loading screen or rage quits early game when things don't go their way. Often you get pros who all stack a team and kick new players who take thier slot, so as you get a team of eg 3 pros (not clanners or anything like that), against 2 one star people and 1 noob. No one has a sense of balance and everyone is more interested in having a steam-roll game.

-this is when i tend to rage quit myself and is the only instance i condone it.

Another problem which isn't so bad is; from an english speakers point of view, there is such a wide audience of people with such a range of languages that there is no communication in the lobbies as no one can understand each other.

-æéääääé æäääää???

Rant over, hopefully i'm not the only one who feels like this.
-you're not
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Old 05-26-2010, 06:36 PM
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I've been playing for quite some time now. These feelings have been building up and after a fustrating night I want to see if im alone on this. This game has the worst community for a game I have ever seen.

Never have I played a game filled with people with dial up connections, slow laggy PC's, dodgy internet connections which disconnects, and the most unwelcoming attitude to new players.

Tonight I've spent 20mins trying to get into a game. After 5mins of waiting in the lobby for players to come, the host is afk and so we all wait around for a couple of mins. The game starts and we start loading. Except one of the people has timed out and we're stuck on a 10 minute loading screen to tell us that he's timed out. So the game is restart and the same thing happens 2nd time round.
Well I see you havnt played Age of empires I + II over gamespy then

THAT was a bad experience. Sometimes it could easily take 30 or 40 min. before you get a game going. And at least in Men of War if you are rushed in the first 30 sec. of the game its not always over you can still do something and have fun with a descent team of course. Age of Empires on the other side ... yeah you have to love those people that run around killing others in the first 2-3 min of gameplay even when the host said "no early rush".

So to say that men of war is not worse compared to other real time strategy games I played in MP. Though its also not better. The real issue is the server browser laging like crazy sometimes taking 10 min before you can choose a game ...

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At least once every other game, someone times out during the loading screen or rage quits early game when things don't go their way. Often you get pros who all stack a team and kick new players who take thier slot, so as you get a team of eg 3 pros (not clanners or anything like that), against 2 one star people and 1 noob. No one has a sense of balance and everyone is more interested in having a steam-roll game.
Its elitism. I never was a fan of ratings and stats or such. I can see the benefits of knowing the skill of the player before you start particularly in a strategy game like MoW. But on the other side it many times leads to a form of behaviour I call "hidden elitism". You see quite often games with a lot of people sitting on one side with the strongest players. Or at least those with the highest rating. As soon someone joins, he leaves emidiately and you basicaly wait and wait and ... wait. And sometimes the game gets full. Other times all leave. Though to say that the number of games someone has played doesnt mean he is very skilled. I consider my self as a moderate gamer and yet I managed to win some 2vs2 with people that played a lot of games with a team mate mate that had a lower rating then I do. Sometimes you win sometimes you loose I guess.


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Yes also i think the use of TNT is vital anyhow if only because on things like payback,you dont get your full money back till your own tank is toasted,if its only 'hull crushed',you dont get the money,unless its 'hull destroyed' or captured.
I do destroy my own gear with TNT when I see the risk of beeing repaired and used against me. Even if TNT is banned in tank only battles I always see it only as a rule against the enemy. I mean whats worse, destroying your damaged tank or knowing that it will see use against you cause you have no chance to recapture it?. Its also a realistic behaviour. I think no one can blame you what you do with your OWN minions ... I mean men

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Old 05-26-2010, 06:46 PM
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That whole thing about limiting to no TnT is sooo annoying...the same thing happens in Battlefield games...the server goes, no commanders, no artillery, no this no that...they limit the game to like nothing but infantry weapons. Why not just play the damn game, if the people cant handle thier tanks being blown into metal splinters dont play, but dont limit the use of any tool in the game..if its there you should beable to use it to its fullest effect. If your having trouble w/ guys blowing your rump up with Artillery then try and get some better cover w/ your tanks vision and use old tank crew to man your AA MGs. In Regular games use better infantry cover....however, on that note, limiting to no planes is nice.....AA doesnt track them so they are practically invincible making them very OP. IMO if planes are going to be in the game they should be call in 1 run airstrike like the Bombing Run you get on "Behind Enemy Lines" or "Desert Stronghold" Not some flyable unit that is anti everything
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Old 05-26-2010, 06:51 PM
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That whole thing about limiting to no TnT is sooo annoying...the same thing happens in Battlefield games...the server goes, no commanders, no artillery, no this no that...they limit the game to like nothing but infantry weapons. Why not just play the damn game, if the people cant handle thier tanks being blown into metal splinters dont play, but dont limit the use of any tool in the game..if its there you should beable to use it to its fullest effect. If your having trouble w/ guys blowing your rump up with Artillery then try and get some better cover w/ your tanks vision and use old tank crew to man your AA MGs. In Regular games use better infantry cover....however, on that note, limiting to no planes is nice.....AA doesnt track them so they are practically invincible making them very OP. IMO if planes are going to be in the game they should be call in 1 run airstrike like the Bombing Run you get on "Behind Enemy Lines" or "Desert Stronghold" Not some flyable unit that is anti everything
I do agree about the 'no art' rule,for three distinct reason's,A;If anything is gonna lagg your game online,its artillary,B;Most people tend to use it to fire on your spawn points,which is both boring & lame,C;Its way over powered from a gaming point of view.
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Old 05-26-2010, 06:55 PM
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cant argue that its quite a bit more accurate then it should be....the American M114 155mm can snipe out my tanks from max range, placing it right in my commanders hatch. in BoW mod had an opponenet following my Panzer IV with it. US and Soviet Artillery are snipers while German Artillery isnt haha.
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Old 06-05-2010, 01:58 PM
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cant argue that its quite a bit more accurate then it should be....the American M114 155mm can snipe out my tanks from max range, placing it right in my commanders hatch. in BoW mod had an opponenet following my Panzer IV with it. US and Soviet Artillery are snipers while German Artillery isnt haha.
The M114 is the worst artillery piece I have ever used in game. By the time I finally scored a hit on a tank (which didn't do much but disable it) I had fired all of its ammo.
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Old 05-26-2010, 07:14 PM
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Sometimes you win sometimes you loose I guess.
That i can agree.

i been playing Soldiers: Heroes of World War II and Faces of War long before men of war come out.

and can say that someday your on top of the world in the game and someday you're down on your luck.


the ranking system don't mean that you have good skill is just mean that you play a lot of men of war Multiplayer,

and also is not that hard to change your rank the only thing you have to do is edit some text file.


but anyway is a hit and miss when you're playing Men of War Multiplayer but of course in saying that. is help if you're good in strategy.

like setting up mind and using scout to keep a eye on your enemy movement and if you're lucky you win.
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