Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

[AndyJWest]

csThor, thanks for that - as good a response to Sprain's silliness as we could reasonably expect.

Nearmiss - I think the IL-2 online dogfight community probably underestimate how many people enjoy IL-2 in other ways. They tend to be the most vocal, and the most partisan, but they are very much a minority. The continuing sales of IL-2, and the interest of newcomers on the various forums, seem to indicate that there is still a broad base of interest, and relatively few of the noobs will ever fly online - it is actualy a rather hostile environment for the inexperienced.

As for not flying coops, why not? Even if you don't want to make a serious commitment, dropping in on the Ubizoo Saturday coop once or twice might broaden your horizons - we do this for fun, remember.

[Roblex]

Personally I fly IL2 purely for the chance to fly Co-ops and I despair of the kiddies who get a kick out of fly-die-fly-die arenas. I would rather fly one 90 minute co-op and park up on the apron at the end alive than fly 9 ten minute deathmatch missions.

As for flying outmoded aircraft; I can see that trying to sink the Tirpitz with a Swordfish is suicidal in a dogfight server that has 10 FW190s hovering over it but when you are flying a Co-op re-enactment of the attack on Taranto then doing it in a low slow outdated biplane just adds to the experience.

[_RAAF_Stupot]

Originally Posted by Roblex

Personally I fly IL2 purely for the chance to fly Co-ops and I despair of the kiddies who get a kick out of fly-die-fly-die arenas. I would rather fly one 90 minute co-op and park up on the apron at the end alive than fly 9 ten minute deathmatch missions.

As for flying outmoded aircraft; I can see that trying to sink the Tirpitz with a Swordfish is suicidal in a dogfight server that has 10 FW190s hovering over it but when you are flying a Co-op re-enactment of the attack on Taranto then doing it in a low slow outdated biplane just adds to the experience.

+1

I have to admit that I am pretty much done with flying on dogfight servers. This game has always been a simulation for me - so I like to simulate flying, and surviving, a sortie.

[_1SMV_Gitano]

Originally Posted by Roblex

As for flying outmoded aircraft; I can see that trying to sink the Tirpitz with a Swordfish is suicidal in a dogfight server that has 10 FW190s hovering over it...

Think to those Swordfish pilots who attacked the Scharnhorst, Gneisenau and Prinz Eugen during the Channel Dash, all shot down by FW190s... the leading pilot got a Victoria Cross for the action (posthumous)

[JG53Frankyboy]

it all depends on the missionbuilder, dogfight and coop, if such "crap" planes are usefull or not.

[F19_lacrits]

.. And some off us love to fly the cr@p plane (in formation and applying team work) against hot pants opponents like Spits, Mustangs, FW190's or 109's on dogfight servers.

[Sita]

Originally Posted by F19_lacrits

.. And some off us love to fly the cr@p plane (in formation and applying team work)

+1
or without team ...
like a Hero

[Wolkenbeisser]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

it all depends on the missionbuilder, dogfight and coop, if such "crap" planes are usefull or not.

Exactly! In our squadron we mostly fly coops. Sometimes it's really cool to have "crap" planes in a Mission. When? An example:

3 players are forced to fly "crap" planes with bombs. Their goal is to bomb an enemy Airbase, which is defended by enemy planes (KI) and AAA. The bombers only have a chance to get to this base, if other players support them. So the missionbuilder builds other player-flights as well:

- 4 players with planes that carry rockets - goal is AAA
- 6 players with agile fighters - goal is clearence of airspace over enemy base

This way the groups have to play as a team (ok teamspeak is a must for this) to fullfill the main goal - destroy the enemy airbase.

Btw: We have many pilots, who WANT to fly the crap planes, because it's a special challenge to fullfill the goal with limited capabilities.

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Yes... its all about a challenge!

[Feathered_IV]

Often it isn't just about winning, but rather losing in style.

Why not give yourself a glimpse of what it was like to go up against the best the Luftwaffe had, in outdated Soviet equipment? Or the hoplessness of a Japanese low level attack into the teeth of a US carrier fleet? There are plenty of other examples of this. It doesn't always have to be bleeding edge late-war types and arcade killing streaks.