Impossible warrior LEVEL 61/Day 7/all quests/ZERO casualties run

[Esteral]

Hiya loreangelicus,

Nice job.

Could you maybe explain a bit how you keep de wandering down on each map.
At the moment I am playing a Mage and I am lvl 29 on Elon, and i am already on day 7. I only lost about 3 hours or so because I went to Rusty Anchor twice.
Problem for me seems that I lost to much time on Verona en Montero.

I hardly kite and I try to keep walking down to a minimum but still I seems to lose a lot of time getting new and keep my army on or near max units.
(I got sarifice very late).

Maybe you can give some more info on your tactics.

Thanks

[Razorflame]

@esteral

some tips for u might include(i'm quite sure lorean used this)

step 1. use kbscanner(for the right items and where the good units are)

step 2. start the game finish tutorial(then SAVE)

step 3. scout all map and see what opponents u get and how to handle them

step.4 go back to the saved game and take the path u aim for fastest walking time

step.5 on new continent save again

step6. repeat step 3

step7. repeat step 4

do this all and u can get the shortest time

it's not as hard as it looks

i have to give him props for using a full stack though since u can cheese easily with a 1 bk stack or bone dragon stack and use eviln

but then again that can also be used in combination with the droids very thoughtfull thinking

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by Razorflame

@esteral

some tips for u might include(i'm quite sure lorean used this)

step 1. use kbscanner(for the right items and where the good units are)

step 2. start the game finish tutorial(then SAVE)

step 3. scout all map and see what opponents u get and how to handle them

step.4 go back to the saved game and take the path u aim for fastest walking time

step.5 on new continent save again

step6. repeat step 3

step7. repeat step 4

do this all and u can get the shortest time

it's not as hard as it looks

i have to give him props for using a full stack though since u can cheese easily with a 1 bk stack or bone dragon stack and use eviln

but then again that can also be used in combination with the droids very thoughtfull thinking

Correct on all accounts! Armed with the quest list and the definitive path, it was just a matter of pre-scouting a new continent, then reloading from a save game.

I did get Sacrifice early on because I was digging chests a lot and even replaying battles when I didn't like the contents of the 3 dug up chests. Also, I stuck with a definitive crew: droids, then black knights (via call of death) and finally bone dragons (via call of death or call colossus). You buy as may droids as you can on Bolo, then load up your 2 reserve slots with tons of repair and guard droids (to last till the end of the game) once you hit Montero. Then it's pretty easy to top up your 2 undead stacks using sacrifice on the droids. This meant I didn't need to buy troops after the initial visit to Montero.

You guys should really try the droid-undead lineup. All the enemies would concentrate fire on the droids (when they are within attack range), who are even easier to resurrect than the Eviln-powered undead.

[Razorflame]

i will try sometime maybe

currrently thinking of a impossible game with pally with phantomed ed
^^

makes dragons that much stronger xD

[Esteral]

Thanks for the info Razor and Lore,

Iam playing with the gift pack and also used the scanner to get a nice build, but at the moment I got stopped in my impossible mage campgain.
I am lvl 29 and on Elon. Killed all the normal mob but Shenobi is to strong (lvl 44). I tried to battle him, but his troops do just to much dmg.
I have 10000 leadership and got 5 Red dragons , 42 Pallies, 55 Ancient Vampires, 47 Demonologist, 66 Black knights. Also have Mages and Inquistors in reserve.

He has Trolls, Ogres , Demonologists, Ancent Ents, and a bunch of orcs and stuff. Problem is his lvl 5 troops are too strong at this lvl for me.

I am trying to figure out how I can get my lvl up, but on all previous Islands I killed 98% of all troops. Only Montero Dungeon is mainly untouched and most of the hero's I left alive, because they are to strong (10+ lvls compaired to me). I played a noloss mage game before without the gift pack. The gift pack moved some of the higher lvl boss mobs and I have the impression some easier mobs are made harder in the gift pack but I am not sure if the game got harder with the gift back. Also I am still trying to figure out if I should do better on Montero and kill the hero's there.

Maybe you can tell me what your general lvl was at the mayor islands. Did you also have the flying horse when you left Montero?

I will try with the droids, I tried before but never really liked them.

[Razorflame]

esteral your unit combination is a bit weird to me but anyway
for that battle

i would suggest swapping the black knights for evil beholders if u got any of them

i would swap the red dragon for a emerald green dragon

i would swap the vamps for royal thorns

and maybe but not sure of this swap pallies for royal griffins but i don't think is nescearry


on first turn
aussuming u got onslaught at level 1 and quick draw too

(make a phantom emerald dragon
fly to his units and use that mana boost)

throw a fireball on the ents

and use the evil beholder to mind control the goblins to attack an level 5 units
or try to get him fall into sleep(gobs sleep easily)

second turn cast fear on a low goblin if the sleep fails
and cast another fireball on the ents
and wait your real emerald dragon(he needs to steal mana after the second round)

then turn 3 fly back with the real emerald and phantom it again and move to phantom again to enemy
while meanwhile keep summoning those thorns and hit his level 5 units as hard as u can and try to kill ents first(aussuimg they are burning they die fast)

and keep a low stack of goblins alive for mass resu
turn fear on them or something so they won't attack

hope this helps

[Esteral]

Thanks for the tips.

But I do have some questions on it.

- How do you keep de royal thorns alive, they cannot be ressed ?
- Evil beholders I used in the passed with a warrrior build but they not so usefull in most fights. I liked the Ancient Vampires better because they heal themselfs and created more rage, which I then can turn into mana.

- I used the reds for the fire on the ents, got also turn back time, but still 43 ants in 2 stacks are a lot.

I will try to get a screenshot of the battle field. (Added a screenshot)

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by Esteral

Thanks for the info Razor and Lore,

Iam playing with the gift pack and also used the scanner to get a nice build, but at the moment I got stopped in my impossible mage campgain.
I am lvl 29 and on Elon. Killed all the normal mob but Shenobi is to strong (lvl 44). I tried to battle him, but his troops do just to much dmg.
I have 10000 leadership and got 5 Red dragons , 42 Pallies, 55 Ancient Vampires, 47 Demonologist, 66 Black knights. Also have Mages and Inquistors in reserve.

He has Trolls, Ogres , Demonologists, Ancent Ents, and a bunch of orcs and stuff. Problem is his lvl 5 troops are too strong at this lvl for me.

I am trying to figure out how I can get my lvl up, but on all previous Islands I killed 98% of all troops. Only Montero Dungeon is mainly untouched and most of the hero's I left alive, because they are to strong (10+ lvls compaired to me). I played a noloss mage game before without the gift pack. The gift pack moved some of the higher lvl boss mobs and I have the impression some easier mobs are made harder in the gift pack but I am not sure if the game got harder with the gift back. Also I am still trying to figure out if I should do better on Montero and kill the hero's there.

Maybe you can tell me what your general lvl was at the mayor islands. Did you also have the flying horse when you left Montero?

I will try with the droids, I tried before but never really liked them.

It is an interesting mix of troops that you have, but I like the fact that they actually blend well morale-wise. Undead go well with paladins/inquisitors and neutrals (and red dragons and demonologists are some of the best neutrals in the game).

Understand that you should skip enemies only if you are saving them for an AK usage later on. That's because skipping enemies creates a snowball effect of making you weaker/lower level, which makes you skip more enemies later on. In my path, I was level 43 when I fought Shenobi (see screenshot).

Also note that I played warrior. I wish I could give you guaranteed tips, like how [mana accelerator-phantom bone dragons] will keep your enemies tied up forever (see screenshot), but I heard from others that the lower leadership of a mage has mixed results using this tactic.

[Razorflame]

well a warrior is alot easier than the mage
^^

but that is just my opinion

low leadership sucks
and i KBTL u could have firerain doing over 6k damage haven't got that in kbap yet

[Svidler]

Hey,
As for the route, I don't see any Verona trip between your first and 2nd (last)
nameless visit? Do you not need to talk to that zombies brother? (and return for reward to complete?) As a sidenote, I always end up on 86 quests.
Wondered everytime what the heck the 87th is. After I discovered Shenobis burial I thought that would be all :/ Does anyone have a decent guess
what is usually missed out?