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Old 05-09-2010, 10:35 AM
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I'll probably regret wading into this, but in 'Wings of the Luftwaffe' by Captain Eric Brown there are two pictures of a BF110C-4 (Werk-Nr 2177) which was forced down at Goodwood on 21 July 1940, and you can see there is no extended pitot.

In another picture, a C-4 captured in 1944 does show one. Presumably this was a modification, assuming that the extended pitot, having been added to later series, performed better.

Zorin is merely being 'frank', and as English is not his first language, we should cut him some slack. There are plenty of posters here for whom English is their first language but who still engage in very rude exchanges.
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Old 05-09-2010, 10:56 AM
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I do not criticize you .............. but I often ask a question?
Who decided that the English 'world language?
maybe everything was decided after the second world war?
This is the list of most languages' spoken in the world.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ative_speakers


but now with so much technology mankind has not a single language or a machine to translate the 6,500 types of language.

not to invent a new language only world?


ACTUALLY IS CHINESE AND ESPANIOL the FIRST LENGUAGGE IN THE WORLD ENGLISH IS 3 LENGUAGGE IN THE WORLD

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Old 05-09-2010, 11:06 AM
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Not suggesting English is the world language at all: my point is that it's not Zorin's native language, and whilst his command of english is indeed superb, he may come across more bluntly than he intends.

He's a nice guy
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Old 05-09-2010, 11:49 AM
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He's a nice guy
Indeed.
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:17 PM
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The early model of Pitot tube we are talking about, seen here on 3U+JT, of 9./ZG 26.
Although a Bf 110 E (the squared airscoop on the nose is clearly visible on the original photograph), this aircraft retained the "L-shaped" model, previously used on C and D (and maybe B) types.


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Old 05-09-2010, 12:18 PM
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Maybe you are right, it`s not easy to write down "only" informations. But to change such minor things like a pitot tube is easier than changing stuff in code or even finishing the game
I always say lets see how the final product will be, if we have a chance to update during development, ok it`s welcomed.

But sorry Zorins comment looked like nitpicking, maybe it was just an informaiton for Oleg
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:47 PM
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The Pitot tube model chosen by Oleg Maddox (...IMHO mistakenly, with due respect, for a Bf 110 C but I unfortunately don't have any "factory" proof, only a lot of photographic evidences...) is this one, straight and slimmer, fitted under the leading edge of the port wing, as seen on 3C+GS of 8./NJG 4:



According to John Vasco, about the Bf 110 E: "...during the production run, the pitot tube was changed from the original 'L' shape to a longer slimmer mast that protruded forward of the wing leading edge..."
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Old 05-10-2010, 11:53 AM
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I feel that we should lay the blame for this argument soley on the mangers, designers and workers of the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke, who obviously can't follow the blueprints when making thier aircraft and felt that they need to play around with the design!

You'ld think that if you were going to change the design of something like a pitot tube (measuring airspeed is a reasonable fundimental aspect of aircaft operation) they would document it?

Of course the alied bombing may not haved helped, but you'ld think they'ld keep copies of important information in a number of places, or maybe they just didn't care? Obviously they did not forsee a time 70 years in the future where their lack of forsight would cause arguments!

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