Civilians?

[zapatista]

and for those that actually read threads like this to exchange information about oleg's upcoming masterpiece, just a few more clips of what Oleg actually DID say in the past about some of the new features we were discussing earlier in this same thread

1) further "bird" info bits oleg gave around the same time:

Yes, we can't kill using weapon. However, with mid-air collison you'll get some damage of aircraft, but no blood of the bird. The bird will dissapears after such a collison

So, say, at list this one (bird) will play some additional gameplay role when you are flying near cliffs.

Currently we have only such concept for seagulls

The type of seagull selected as the main type distributed around the world. Say in English Channel or on the great rivers of Siberia - there is just very small changes in color.

So, if there will be third party modellers that will make add-ons with "Pacific Fighters" - then this seagull will be actual there as well.

In future I promise you'll see more surprises, unexpected in fligtsim smile

and

Birds and the specific case - Seagulls over the cliffs - is a real problem of aviation. Why not to model it?
The bird's collission with aircraft happens many times per year.
Modern engines, say the new one for Sukhoi Superjet had a lot of tests for that case on a special stand.
And... you may fing a lot of photos in the internet about bird's collision with aircraft.

2) ...and when a poster commented on how good it was to get "AI animals/birds", oleg dropped the following hint about what else is around the corner

Traffic on the farm "roads" or online? wink
Or traffic of famous busses in London? wink

and back to the masters voice on birds

At the moment we have just one type of bird. And they are placed on a long distance from airfield.

In our docs we have more animals, birds. But we will model the most important currently that will go 100% in the final release. We have limits in time and I select the most important my or other developers ideas that really will play some role and not only for "WOW, they did it!" effect. The first - everything should play some role in a gameplay. Secondary - amount of types and subtypes... importance is definitely significant.

I think if the life of BoB(Sow) will be long enough, then due features of engine we may see many interesting things in flight sim, but not other genre of games.

my my, he said 100%, didnt he, DIDNT HE ! and he DOES hint/indicate seagulls will not be the only other "living creatures" we might eventually see in the sim

at the end of that same discussion thread a question was asked about other static or moving animals planned for BoB (such as cows in fields near airfields, and them scattering when a low flying aircraft approaches them), sadly the answer from saqson (oleg's side kick) said to this .... ( oleg himself did not comment further on it in that thread, which was at simhq BoB forum last year)

Animals as static objects are not planned. If not dead, certainly.

so on the one hand we have oleg indicating we might gradually get other animals/birds/fish (?) after the seaguls, but saqson's answer is a little confusing in that context

i'd say info like that is rather encouraging and uplifting, it shows vision and planning, and a lot of scope for further development.

[zapatista]

another interesting snip from oleg in another interview (russian website), was the fact vehicles/aircraft will leave tracks on the ground (only commented on afaik about grass, but presumably the same is true for dirt strips

http://spread-wings.ru/images/storie...ask_sunset.jpg

[zapatista]

and some more snips from oleg (mid 2009), this one confirming there WILL be other animals (i am still hoping for cows/sheep in fields)

In online the score for the killing people will be absent. The score system will be around the planes, ground targets as tanks, cars, ships, etc.. This is my principle that I will never change. As well as you will be not able really to kill animals in our sim and to get the score for that... but animals of different kind will be present smile

gets a bit confusing is earlier saqson stated there wont be static animals, does that mean that .... ?

[philip.ed]

Hello Zapatista (and all) and good afternoon!
Nothing is certain, no, so I wonder why you (zapatista) just re-wrote everything I said? That was exactly the point of my earlier post; to point out that although these elements may be working in the sim, there is no given that they will appear in the initial release. Yes, flocks of sea-gulls may be working; but so are driveable vehicles with a 1st person perspecitve, and IIRC the pictures of these that Oleg showed were to demonstrate what 3rd parties could do as these elements may not appear in the final release



EDIT-from your evidence though mate, clearly you are right that the seagull will be included. Thanks for proving me wrong; in this instance it was worth it! However, I apologise for not having a completely perfect memory of everything I read; most of it goes in the memory bank, but that bit of info about the 'gull was info I have not read before

2nd edit; in hindsight my original posting was maybe too harsh; I am not here to argue, but to enjoy this sim (Il-2) and hopefully SoW in the future.

[Abbeville-Boy]

the seagull announcement was huge news when it came out they will be cool

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Abbeville-Boy

the seagull announcement was huge news when it came out they will be cool

I actually can't remember it being announced to this much extent! I can only remember viewing the picture on a forum-members website/photobucket account.

If anyone can be so helpful to tell me which discussion this was from I'll look for it (a date would be helpful).

EDIT_if not, I'll look for it when I have more time

[Abbeville-Boy]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

I actually can't remember it being announced to this much extent! I can only remember viewing the picture on a forum-members website/photobucket account.

If anyone can be so helpful to tell me which discussion this was from I'll look for it (a date would be helpful).

EDIT_if not, I'll look for it when I have more time

i seem to remember announce over at simHQ