Non Friday 2010-04-15 Development Update :)

[Flyby]

recalling how much a single core cpu bogged down with many parachutes in the air, and believing that there might be more than a few animated crew descending softly by chute in SoW gives me pause. I hope this feature can be turned off. Good for a few giggles and grins, and maybe a few wows, sure. But if Oleg is going to release a sim that, at full tilt (as some suspect) will bring even a modern gaming rig to it's knees, then wanting a downed crewman to wander about while the battle above still rages above just seems to scream single-digit frames. Maybe the unfortunate sot could steal an enemy plane and escape? How will this be implemented in single player or multiplayer for that matter and still render acceptable frames per second. Maybe better to just have the pilot run, duck and cover just like before in IL2. After all, everyone else will be too busy flying about to watch what happens to those who have already left the aerial arena. Why waste the cores, threads or cpu cycles getting animated figures to do this or that? Hey! Maybe if I were to get shot down that would be how my online and offline flight ended, if enabled? I mean I hit the silk online and I no longer can see what's going on with the rest of the mission. All I can see is what my avatar-pilot is doing. No outside views of other craft/players. Just me gathering my chute and trying to outrun Socialist-indoctrinated Rottweilers and there square-headed handlers. A whole new facet of the sim whereby the whole power of my gaming system is redirected to my pilot (as in an FP-Shooter) trying to get back to base. Of course I could just end the mission, and respawn for another go at the brutes.
Flyby out

[Flanker35M]

S!

Flyby. Exactly my thoughts. You bail = game over. You might get rescued if over channel, POW if over England, slight possibility of escaping if over France depending on side you fly of course. Tons of parachutes will bring the system down.

Even those multiplayer flight sims like Aces High 2 get a dip in FPS if there is a lot of them. Some even used it as a way of making defence harder, dropped hundreds of paratroopers bringing the lag and FPS down to single digits. And this game can handle hundreds of players normally, but look at graphics. It all comes with a cost

[Flyby]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

Flyby. Exactly my thoughts. You bail = game over. You might get rescued if over channel, POW if over England, slight possibility of escaping if over France depending on side you fly of course. Tons of parachutes will bring the system down.

Even those multiplayer flight sims like Aces High 2 get a dip in FPS if there is a lot of them. Some even used it as a way of making defence harder, dropped hundreds of paratroopers bringing the lag and FPS down to single digits. And this game can handle hundreds of players normally, but look at graphics. It all comes with a cost

Flanker35M I never played Aces High 2, but it's nice to know (nice?) this FPS problem was not limited to IL2. I don't know that SoW will have a solution for that which won't result in lag and single-digit FPS. It may, but as you say there is a cost (not just in lag and low FPS but in $$$$ in trying to build a system that won't choke on it). What's an Oleg to do? Can't put the genie back in the bottle. Here's to luck.
Flyby out
PS I did like the video, but it made me think of a mission I crafted where the troop transports were to be shot down in time. That didn't happen, and they disgorged their passengers, and brought that online COOP to it's knees. Not pretty, and a little embarrassing since I created it.

[SturmKreator]

wow, looks great, but i didnt see AA, this new game support AA?

[philip.ed]

Guys, as I said before, BoB2 supports hundreds of A/C and with this, of course, there will be tons of parachutes in the sky in a big dogfight. The sim handles this well, and with the right PC there is little in way of fps loss (at least to make a difference to the human eye).

[Flyby]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Guys, as I said before, BoB2 supports hundreds of A/C and with this, of course, there will be tons of parachutes in the sky in a big dogfight. The sim handles this well, and with the right PC there is little in way of fps loss (at least to make a difference to the human eye).

no offense, but you've seen "tons" of parachutes in BoB2? I've seen somewhat less than that in IL2 and it was a slide show. I'm only going by that as a concern when the parachutists are so articulated as in Oleg's video. I used to own Rowan's Bob, and can vouch for seeing tons of aircraft, though, and without a frame hit on a single core processor. I hope we see that many in SoW without a frame hit. I can live with a simplified rendering of many 'chutes in the air, but if I ain't one of them I hope to be too busy to count them!
Flyby out

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Flyby

no offense, but you've seen "tons" of parachutes in BoB2? I've seen somewhat less than that in IL2 and it was a slide show. I'm only going by that as a concern when the parachutists are so articulated as in Oleg's video. I used to own Rowan's Bob, and can vouch for seeing tons of aircraft, though, and without a frame hit on a single core processor. I hope we see that many in SoW without a frame hit. I can live with a simplified rendering of many 'chutes in the air, but if I ain't one of them I hope to be too busy to count them!
Flyby out

Bearing in mind the plane is in a state the chaps can get out, then yes! It's all dependent on the amount of planes.
Of course you have a slight fps hit, which increases on lower systems, but compared to Il-2 the amount of planes you can have is in another world. If BoB is your thing, then it knocks Il-2 for six, even a modded Il-2