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Old 03-30-2010, 11:08 PM
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At the very least there are other fun aircraft that we can still simulate that deserve some attention as well that aren't bound by such a stupid legal problem.
The B5N Kate for example!

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Old 03-30-2010, 11:19 PM
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The B5N Kate for example!

Thanks to Team Daidalos for all you do!
Alright... I said to myself I wasn't going to do a list again... but you made me do it

Typhoon Mark IB (perfect fit for Normandy BTW)
Spitfire XIV
Fairey Firefly
Fairey Barracuda
Lancaster
Halifax
B5N "Kate"
B6N "Jill"
D4Y "Judy"
Ki-44
Ki-45 "Nick"
Hs123
Me410

I could probably go on if I thought about it for long enough
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:22 AM
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Since the BOB SOW will be open for modifications it would seem that Grumman may have problems enforcing their limitations on "home" plane builders as they have with every other air combat or flight simulation game.

They might be able to prevent Oleg or MSFT, but just like youtube trying to keep all the media from broadcasters off the site. It is just too much work to try to enforce against the average "john doe".
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:46 AM
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Since the BOB SOW will be open for modifications it would seem that Grumman may have problems enforcing their limitations on "home" plane builders as they have with every other air combat or flight simulation game.

They might be able to prevent Oleg or MSFT, but just like youtube trying to keep all the media from broadcasters off the site. It is just too much work to try to enforce against the average "john doe".
It's a bit more complicated than that apparently... if my understanding is correct the legal issues are surrounding the Pacific Fighters game and all related materials. Storm of War apparently will have no such issues.
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:14 AM
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The Curtiss Helldiver is good to go.

As is the Curtuss SOC "Seagull" float plane.

Both were widely used.
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Old 03-31-2010, 05:40 AM
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This forum is getting more like the AAA 'requests' topic every day. You know - think of a plane you'd like to see, post it on the forum, and expect it to happen. It doesn't work like that. Adding a new plane will need (a) information, (b) incentive, and (c) hard work. To see why just asking for your favourite plane isn't much help, let's consider these points in turn.

(a) Information. TD have standards, they need to have sufficient detail available on a plane to make it look right, fly right etc. A blurry photo isn't sufficient.

(b) Incentive. I'd like to have a flyable Supermarine Walrus, but I doubt if this is a major priority for most IL-2 players, so TD meeting my wishes is unlikely.

(c) Hard work: the key issue. TD are doing this for free. It is a lot easier to ask for a Lancaster than it is to actually make one. It is probably easier to make three single-seater fighters than a Lancaster - and given the limitations of the game, a Lanc will always be compromised anyway. If someone from TD is really keen, or someone from outside is willing to meet their standards, we may see a Lanc one day, but it will be down to those making the effort. If the response to every new plane is 'why didn't you do an X', rather than appreciating what you are given (for free), I don't think it is reasonable to expect TD to take too much notice of requests.

On the other hand, if you 'must' have a particular plane, there is a solution. Learn how to do it yourself. As far as I'm aware, TD is not an exclusive club.
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Old 03-31-2010, 08:09 AM
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(b) Incentive. I'd like to have a flyable Supermarine Walrus, but I doubt if this is a major priority for most IL-2 players, so TD meeting my wishes is unlikely.
Funny. I was think along the same lines a few months back.

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Old 03-31-2010, 11:24 PM
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This forum is getting more like the AAA 'requests' topic every day. You know - think of a plane you'd like to see, post it on the forum, and expect it to happen. It doesn't work like that. Adding a new plane will need (a) information, (b) incentive, and (c) hard work. To see why just asking for your favourite plane isn't much help, let's consider these points in turn.

(a) Information. TD have standards, they need to have sufficient detail available on a plane to make it look right, fly right etc. A blurry photo isn't sufficient.

(b) Incentive. I'd like to have a flyable Supermarine Walrus, but I doubt if this is a major priority for most IL-2 players, so TD meeting my wishes is unlikely.

(c) Hard work: the key issue. TD are doing this for free. It is a lot easier to ask for a Lancaster than it is to actually make one. It is probably easier to make three single-seater fighters than a Lancaster - and given the limitations of the game, a Lanc will always be compromised anyway. If someone from TD is really keen, or someone from outside is willing to meet their standards, we may see a Lanc one day, but it will be down to those making the effort. If the response to every new plane is 'why didn't you do an X', rather than appreciating what you are given (for free), I don't think it is reasonable to expect TD to take too much notice of requests.

On the other hand, if you 'must' have a particular plane, there is a solution. Learn how to do it yourself. As far as I'm aware, TD is not an exclusive club.
If you're referring to my list ... I did that for fun mostly.

Also although I have only extremely poor 3D modeling capabilities myself... I was a minor contributor on the old Netwings forum where some of the 3rd party modeling efforts came from that are in the official IL-2 today. I know all of the hard work and long hours involved in making many of these aircraft a reality. I even did some research when I could find resources.

I'm painfully aware how much effort is involved. Making a list doesn't mean I'm demanding of or even necessarily expecting anything to happen. It is fun to dream.
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