Friday 2010-03-26 Screenshots and Discussion Thread

[KOM.Nausicaa]

PS: I forgot to mention that Oleg and team have without doubt to modify the trees after purchase. I am fairly certain they are not usable as they are "out of the box". They just deliver a good template. So it still stays work.

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Hi all. According to the "Royal Horticultural Society Gardeners Encyclopedia of Plants & Flowers" the most common trees in England are;

The Common Oak - Quercus Robur
The Ash - Fraxinus Excelsior
& The Beech - Fagus Sylvatica

All large trees growing well over 20 metre plus.

Alas, I am not a master of all things Arboreal.....but that's what they say. I thought the Sycamore would be there too. I am from the North East of England though, we really need some posh git from the Home Counties to set the record straight . You should see some of the trees in County Durham, they look like skyscrapers relative to this 'Bonsai' affair lol.

I agree that it is very important to get this right however, as it has to look like England. These are of course all WIP people, so give them a break.

I would say the Royal Horticultural Society would be the definitive source on these matters, without doubt.....So check them out!

[AndyJWest]

There would be a lot more Elm trees then than there are now - since almost wiped out by Dutch Elm disease.

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

There would be a lot more Elm trees then than there are now - since almost wiped out by Dutch Elm disease.

Great spot Andy, you Tree Geek! Well before my time, (child of 1976 lol) I don't think I have ever seen an Elm in my life. Was it mass Elm Tree Genocide? Those bloody Yanks, its all their fault .

There again, I might have walked past one yesterday....its not like I pay much attention, lol. *Note to self, must pay heed to all the wondrous Flora and Fauna of this Green and Pleasant Land *TM*

10/10 Inspector Clouseu!! Bring back the Elm!! 1c games could be the Resurrection, and the Life.....

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by RCAF_FB_Orville

Hi all. According to the "Royal Horticultural Society Gardeners Encyclopedia of Plants & Flowers" the most common trees in England are;

The Common Oak - Quercus Robur
The Ash - Fraxinus Excelsior
& The Beech - Fagus Sylvatica

All large trees growing well over 20 metre plus.

Before "dutch elm disease", the Elm was a lot more common, and may have been the most common.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_elm_disease

Circa 1967, a new, far more virulent strain arrived in Britain on a shipment of Rock Elm logs from North America, and this strain proved both highly contagious and lethal to European elms; more than 25 million trees have died in the UK alone.

@ AndyJWest:

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by RCAF_FB_Orville

Hi all. According to the "Royal Horticultural Society Gardeners Encyclopedia of Plants & Flowers" the most common trees in England are;

The Common Oak - Quercus Robur
The Ash - Fraxinus Excelsior
& The Beech - Fagus Sylvatica

All large trees growing well over 20 metre plus.

Alas, I am not a master of all things Arboreal.....but that's what they say. I thought the Sycamore would be there too. I am from the North East of England though, we really need some posh git from the Home Counties to set the record straight . You should see some of the trees in County Durham, they look like skyscrapers relative to this 'Bonsai' affair lol.

I agree that it is very important to get this right however, as it has to look like England. These are of course all WIP people, so give them a break.

I would say the Royal Horticultural Society would be the definitive source on these matters, without doubt.....So check them out!

Well don't forget the Poplar/Aspen either, an ancient native tree

http://www.british-trees.com/treegui...0000003851.htm

Mixture of Poplar Oak and hedgerow on country lane in Kent. I know this wont be modelled but it gives an idea to those wondering what it looks like

Alot of the country roads 60 years ago were like this due to lack of traffic.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Alot of the country roads 60 years ago were like this due to lack of traffic.

This photo really makes me want to take my TR-3 back to it's country of origin and drive it down that road.

How lovely.

And hopefully a pub nearby for some fine English bitter, that I miss so much.

[imaca]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Well don't forget the Poplar/Aspen either, an ancient native tree

http://www.british-trees.com/treegui...0000003851.htm

Mixture of Poplar Oak and hedgerow on country lane in Kent. I know this wont be modelled but it gives an idea to those wondering what it looks like

Alot of the country roads 60 years ago were like this due to lack of traffic.

Its striking in this photo how varied the shades of green are depending on shadows, angle to light, transparency etc.
Personally I would think it impossible to accurately model this, and talk of saturation etc. is pretty much meaningless - the best that can be hoped for is an approximation, which will never keep everyone happy, because they don't seem to recognize how much more complex reality is.
Also I have seen mention of speed grass blowing in the wind - as I understand from looking at their web site the amount of grass modeled in this way is limited to a small area around the view point, so it would seem unsuited to a flight sim.

Originally Posted by proton45

God, if we waited for them to fill-in and position all that detail, for the whole map and in every town...we could be waiting forever for this sim to be done... ;0

Yep, but I would say adding fences/hedges would add much greater immersion than attempting to model every tree type in Britain

[RedToo]

Originally Posted by mark@1C

... it is not the correct atomsphere fit for the war, it's not a battlefiled, it's a place for afternoon tea...

The long hot summer of 1940. England on the ground was for many people a place for afternoon tea. The battle was going on up above. Many RAF pilots commented on this contrast after parachuting out of the battle. Until the Germans switched priorites and began the blitz the Battle of Britain was in the air not on the ground and unless you lived close to an aerodrome you were not directly affected.

RedToo.

[Letum]

Thanks Oleg.