How to do a flip

[Gilly]

Originally Posted by bobbysocks

that's exactly my point! a lot of planes went from concept to prototype within a scant few months and then into full production not too far from that. think of today and what has to happen for a plane to be "accepted" and "approved" by governments. they are almost obsolete by the end of the process. the boys that flew them didnt have 4 years of college or have a specific level of scholastic education ( yes they did have to master an acceptable level of FLIGHT training/education). i totally understand that aircraft are severely more complicated in this era..... but that doesnt necessarily mean they are better pilots.... in fact a college professor once told me, " the smarter we make machines the stupider become". this may be an overstatement but i do believe there is a hint of truth to it. most fighter aircraft now have 2 people doing what one did before. one flies the plane and the other operates the weapons systems.... that in itself is a commentary. yeah i believe the pilots then were better...and given their age... even more so. and like i said....all nationalities.

lest we also forget that today's planes also have sophisticated computer systems that aid the pilot in whatever they are doing and wouldn't fly without them. Back in WWII they were literally connected to the control surfaces by physical wires with no back up if they messed up.

[Crosshair14]

I mean like these vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg1Gb...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIi_j...eature=related

[bobbysocks]

those are more spins than anything. i dont know if you can get the aircraft in the game to copy that....you will have to experiment in sim, real, and arcade. but they told you right there what flight controls to use and how.

[Crosshair14]

Originally Posted by bobbysocks

those are more spins than anything. i dont know if you can get the aircraft in the game to copy that....you will have to experiment in sim, real, and arcade. but they told you right there what flight controls to use and how.

I know but He says them so fast that u barely understand the controls.

[Soviet Ace]

Like Bobby said, those are more spins than flips. I don't know how well you could do it on BoP, as it is kinda limiting to what kinda maneuvers are possible. But in 1946, I'm sure you could get the P-51 to do something like that. On BoP, I'd probably try to do a skid, and point the nose up, and just before stalling out, I'd flick the rudder around to get my guns on the enemy. But I'm not sure how well that'd work doing it in Training or something against AI. You'd have to practice with someone online to do it.

[dkwookie]

That first one is possible more or less in arcade mode. You need to be going full throttle and guy on your tale doing same. Point nose up then rapidly put right stick at 7 o'clock position. This slams on both rudder and knocks off throttle. If the guy on your tale fails to slow down you can slowly roll the right stick around it's edge counter clockwise. During this motion the guy on your tale should be drawing even with you and passing in front. Now slam throttle on and start shooting. If the guy on your tale is good the first part of this manuver leaves you wide open. Also he may read your move and slow down too. The key is how long you hold stick at 7 o clock before doing your move.
This works other way of course, 4 o'clock and clockwise
hope that helps

[bobbysocks]

stick at 7 o'clock and 4 o'clock does both ?? what kind of stick are you using and do you have rudder controls on it as well?? my stick is broke at present so i cant try that out. and that first kinda one rotation spin move wasnt unusual for 51 jocks to use.....but each had their own variation.