Friday 2010-03-19 Screenshots and Discussion Thread

[Avimimus]

I can see where this is going:
First you want some discarded farm equipment to make crash-landings dangerous.
Then you'll want some working tractors.
Then you'll want some working tractors with girls on them.
Then you'll want some haystacks. Finally, you'll want some leave.

[Doogerie]

I think it looks as if the game is almost done now and i am just wondering how meny month away it is?

[Foo'bar]

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by Foo'bar

Nice tractors. I hope we will be able to drive them to a pub if we are downed in a field!

[rollnloop]

Planes, cockpits, sea looks gorgeous, terrain looks bad (and distant terrain doesn't fade enough), clouds look IL2 like, inferior to Il2 modded.

Oleg, i really hope you can do something for these aspects and you'll show us some fantastic terrain features in the next months.

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by rollnloop

Planes, cockpits, sea looks gorgeous, terrain looks bad (and distant terrain doesn't fade enough), clouds look IL2 like, inferior to Il2 modded.

Oleg, i really hope you can do something for these aspects and you'll show us some fantastic terrain features in the next months.

Everything is WIP.

[Sutts]

I'm not after functioning farms guys and I don't dispute the fact there were plenty of tractors working the fields in those days.

All I'm saying is that:

1. Baled hay and straw (round or square) would largely not have been seen
2. Lines of straw in fields would only come later with the introduction of mobile combined harvesters
3. The evenly spaced tractor tramlines that are apparent in the Blenheim shot would definitely not have been seen - these are for the efficient application of fertiliser and sprays on a large scale with 20-30 meter booms. This technology has only been around since the 80s really.

There were machines that could help with the harvest but they were very different from today.

Binders would cut the wheat/barley/oats and tie it up into neat bundles which were dropped on the ground. Workers would then stand a few of these bundles together to form stooks which would aid further drying and keep some of the rain out. These stooks would have been a major feature in fields around harvest time (see picture in previous post).

A static threshing machine (powered by steam or tractor) would then be pulled to the field and the stooked crop would be untied and thrown into the top of the machine. The grain would be threshed out and poured out into sacks while the threshed straw would be dropped out and piled up loosely into pitched stacks (see picture in previous post). These loose stacks would also have been a common sight.

It is possible an odd early baler may have come over from the States but this would have been very rare indeed.


I know some of you could care less about such details but I think it makes a big difference, especially for those interested in producing period correct footage. The enlarged, neatly tended, tramlined fields in the Memphis Belle movie were a dead giveaway. Using plain fields instead of tramlined ones has got to be easier anyway hasn't it?

This really isn't a criticism, it just may not be obvious to people who haven't worked in agriculture.

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by Sutts

I'm not after functioning farms guys and I don't dispute
the fact there were plenty of tractors working the fields in those days.

All I'm saying is that:

1. Baled hay and straw (round or square) would largely not have been seen
2. Lines of straw in fields would only come later with the introduction of mobile
combined harvesters
3. The evenly spaced tractor tramlines that are apparent in the Blenheim shot would definitely
not have been seen - these are for the efficient application of fertiliser and sprays on a large
scale with 20-30 meter booms. This technology has only been around since the 80s really.

There were machines that could help with the harvest but they were very different from today.

Binders would cut the wheat/barley/oats and tie it up into neat bundles which were dropped on the ground.
Workers would then stand a few of these bundles together to form stooks which would aid further drying and keep
some of the rain out. These stooks would have been a major feature in fields around harvest time
(see picture in previous post).

A static threshing machine (powered by steam or tractor) would then be pulled to the field and the stooked
crop would be untied and thrown into the top of the machine. The grain would be threshed out and poured
out into sacks while the threshed straw would be dropped out and piled up loosely into pitched stacks
(see picture in previous post). These loose stacks would also have been a common sight.

It is possible an odd early baler may have come over from the States but this would have been very rare indeed.


I know some of you could care less about such details but I think it makes a big difference, especially for those
interested in producing period correct footage. The enlarged, neatly tended, tramlined fields in the Memphis Belle
movie were a dead giveaway. Using plain fields instead of tramlined ones has got to be easier anyway hasn't it?



This really isn't a criticism, it just may not be obvious to people who haven't worked in agriculture.

The texture shown in the first screenshot looks like it is from an aerial photograph. I imagine that the textures
used in BoB might be similar to those used for VFR scenery for FSX. If that is the case then each texture square
will be individual, and it would take forever to change them, and also would be difficult to make changes look
natural.

I agree - I would prefer not to have those tyre lines in the fields, but it wont matter much if they are there.




VFR scenery for fSX:






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A question to Oleg:

Will the textures be repeated tiles, or all individual (from aerial photos of the area)?






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[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Sutts

I'm not after functioning farms guys and I don't dispute the fact there were plenty of tractors working the fields in those days.

Come on now! If we don't have working farms, how will we have farmers with pitchforks greeting baled-out German and Polish pilots???????

But your points are taken that we don't want evidence of modern argricultual practices onwards on the landscape and the textures used should reflect the practices appropriate to the times.

From the photo's shown (and we don't know when during the war the various photo's were taken ) it is apparent that a) There was an mixture of traditional techniques and equipment with more modern equipment being introduced, and b) Land Army women on tractors were fairly hot.


Cheers!

[Richie]

"Let's got for a roll in the hay". Did that come from Britain??