This game spits you in the face and the nkicks you in the nuts

[ladious]

Help, i am about to give up on the game =( been playing for 16hours now.. just got Mastiff.. getting clear of the Automated Turret towards Elio took me 4hours =X

trying to find Matt Hander now, but every single red ships i encounter blasts me to hell..

I feel that this shouldn't be the case..

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

[Killer]

Yet again I wonder why are people complaining. The mission to get a new MS is soon after the beginning. If you chose not to get the Astarte and are now complaining about how hard is the game in Mastiff, then why have you chosen not to go for the new MS?

Regarding alien missiles, I have never had a problem. Just buy anitmissile systems for your ships. And for MS get a good repair system (Thungsten), shiled (Kali) + system firmware Mk.3

From my side, I have not used missiles at all. It is usless imho as 90% of them are shot down and there are much more usefull skills to put points to. Just using good cannons and puting points to accuracy have won me all battles on normal (finished the game 4 times now).

Regarding particle wepons, I will try them more in a new game. But I agree with Valky, their advantage is that they make the damage in one shot, while pulse lasers do it in 3 or 4 shots.

As for equipping the last MS, I used antilaser (+80% defense) only for the last mission of Alex campaign (the hardest one in the game) - so it was 2 Kali, 1 Thungsten and 1 antilaser. In all other endings, I replace the antilaser with the antimissile module.

[Killer]

Originally Posted by ladious

Help, i am about to give up on the game =( been playing for 16hours now.. just got Mastiff.. getting clear of the Automated Turret towards Elio took me 4hours =X

trying to find Matt Hander now, but every single red ships i encounter blasts me to hell..

I feel that this shouldn't be the case..

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

What? 4 hours? It can be done in 15 - 20 minutes. The first line of turrets you just fly through, the second line you just kill those two turrets blocking your way, then you kill those scavangers and head to the portal. You can also visit the local smuggler's base to buy some nice equipment.

Regarding redships killing you I am affraid there is not much to help. Try easier difficulty or equip your ships properly.

[ladious]

Originally Posted by Killer

What? 4 hours? It can be done in 15 - 20 minutes. The first line of turrets you just fly through, the second line you just kill those two turrets blocking your way, then you kill those scavangers and head to the portal. You can also visit the local smuggler's base to buy some nice equipment.

Regarding redships killing you I am affraid there is not much to help. Try easier difficulty or equip your ships properly.

kk i got past that part =) i have no idea why but once i switch Ternie to control Mastiff and my hero(pilot perk) to control fighter, it worked.

currently trying to get past the 3 groups of guards guarding a mothership(think its Astarte). 8th attempt now. I have to follow the borders of the map and crawl my way towards it but i can't avoid the 3 groups of guards. I equip my ship with the "best" i can find.

I am doing the storyline quests only, don't know how to find the "mini quests".

[Killer]

Originally Posted by ladious

kk i got past that part =) i have no idea why but once i switch Ternie to control Mastiff and my hero(pilot perk) to control fighter, it worked.

currently trying to get past the 3 groups of guards guarding a mothership(think its Astarte). 8th attempt now. I have to follow the borders of the map and crawl my way towards it but i can't avoid the 3 groups of guards. I equip my ship with the "best" i can find.

I am doing the storyline quests only, don't know how to find the "mini quests".

Well by now you should have three pilots. Put all of them to a fighter. Putting anyone to MS is a total waste of resources. Try to get all of them at least 3rd generation fighter. Last time I did it I had two 3rd gen (Jaguar and Tiger) and one 4th gen fighter (Panther).
Put a Kali and a Thungsten to your MS together with a system firmware Mk.3 and use it as a tank.

[ladious]

yeah i have 2 fighters now. only second gen, Raptor and Stormcrow. And yeah i gave up trying to get past the 3 groups of guards, will try to get that setup u mentioned.

So my MS will have no pilot. and i should try to get 3x 3rd gen fighters.

I checked out the Kali and Thunsten, they are costly.. and the firmware costs about 300k too. Where should i be making money?


ps: Decided to go for it 1 more try =p i managed to get into the docking facilities and got some mercenaries. hehe! won the astarte woohoo! but still.. how do i make money to afford those 3rd gen and above ships..?

[Killer]

Except of missions, there is only one way to make money. From loot. Search every sector and kill as many pirates as possible. It is also good to check those hidden cashes, there are really nice drops there.
I do not use mercenaries as they take away valuable XP which would my pilots get.

[Nanaki]

Yeah, one of the biggest dissapointments is the mercenary system. For a rediculous sum of money you get an utterly useless squad of mercs (who, in my experiance, usually get themselves killed at the very beginning of the mission) and generally their only purpose seems to be leeching your experiance and hard-earned cash.

The only time I ever used mercs was the final mission, when you need every last ounce of firepower and it is not like money will have any use to you after the final mission.

[hansebee]

Originally Posted by ladious

So my MS will have no pilot. and i should try to get 3x 3rd gen fighters.

I checked out the Kali and Thunsten, they are costly.. and the firmware costs about 300k too. Where should i be making money?


ps: Decided to go for it 1 more try =p i managed to get into the docking facilities and got some mercenaries. hehe! won the astarte woohoo! but still.. how do i make money to afford those 3rd gen and above ships..?

as was already said before: between storyline missions - go - hunt - for - treasure !
Do not refrain from taking advice from this Board (see "hidden chache" thread), as there are some nice things several 100k worth per find. I got two lvl4 and one lvl5 fighters that way and *all* the gun equipment on my freshly repainted Mastiff. Now I hunt for pirate bases - not just their fleets of fighters. And the likes of "Get the Astarte" mission or similar are almost too easy - you can eradicate every last fighter in the X system easily, I did not even have repair systems and faced down all mercenaries guarding my new baby. Equipment and fighters is everything, you will wipe out Debris system in no time - I just wish there were more side missions for XP.