Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

[Adwark]

Originally Posted by FC99

2. G_Limits are not fixed, if plane is in 8/12 category that doesn't mean that it will get damaged every time you exceed 8G or that it will broke when 12G's are exceeded. If you are lucky you can pull 13G's and get away with it but everything above 8G is lottery. If you are carrying bombs limits are much tighter and you should be very careful in maneuvers.

3. Don't expect this to be 100% accurate in every way, that's not possible to achieve in PC simulation with 200+ planes. Some generalizations are necessary but our opinion is that this feature is big step forward in making the sim more realistic.

My be you can little bit explain, if it's not a top secret . Does G-limit algorithm have a plane construction parameter.I meant , does G-limit algorithm, when calculated G number for each plane, used different algorithms for full wood, wood/metal, full metal planes construction? In reality it's must be different, but I doesn't know, how it realized in game.

[IvanK]

..."used different algorithms for full wood, wood/metal, full metal planes construction? In reality it's must be different"

Why must it be different? The overall design specification is that the structure must be able to withstand XX G at YY Weight. The designer then ensures his structure using his choice of materiel's meets the spec. a 10G structure is a 10G structure whether it is made of wood or steel, its failure modes may be slightly different though.

In the G limit routine each aircraft has its own unique profile.

[T}{OR]

I do hope you guys are planing on including some kind of permission to who can join as my gunner. I am afraid that this might be used in the worst way possible. For example - shooing at your own plane or shooting at your wingman, thus exploiting the added option.

[daidalos.team]

Yes Thor, we do.

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by daidalos.team

Yes Thor, we do.

I didn't doubt for a moment. Thanks for the reply!

[MikkOwl]

Originally Posted by T.}{.O.R.

I didn't doubt for a moment. Thanks for the reply!

Does not this post from (EDIT: Often when I post, it starts a new page) two pages before this one already answer your question in detail?

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=438

[Adwark]

Originally Posted by IvanK

Why must it be different? The overall design specification is that the structure must be able to withstand XX G at YY Weight. The designer then ensures his structure using his choice of materiel's meets the spec. a 10G structure is a 10G structure whether it is made of wood or steel, its failure modes may be slightly different though.

In the G limit routine each aircraft has its own unique profile.

You are right. Sorry my previous post not correct. I was agree, 10G structure is 10G structure and you are right about failure mode. I don't know how it working in game, but if we are looking in the "Resistance of materials" theory wood was quickly fatigue like aviation aluminum. And if in game was used that info, 10G wood construction must be broken faster like metal 10G structure. For example, 10G wood plane doing 4 over limit turns, but 10G full metal plane 5 or 6. That was took in game more realism. But of course game is game. I was watching on youtoobe.com WW2 documentary movie about B-17. One of them have a very heavy damaged tail, but crew return to base and successfully landing. In comments was written "thats gays is lucky", but this not a luck, This is, How to the "Resistance of materials" theory work in real life. If B-17 has a wood structure they doesn't be so lucky.

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by Adwark

"Resistance of materials" theory wood was quickly fatigue like aviation aluminum. And if in game was used that info, 10G wood construction must be broken faster like metal 10G structure.

Can you support your claim?

To my knowledge, wood, being a natural composite, is, actually, less affected by fatigue, then crystalline material such as metal.

I'd really like to see a Wöhler diagram for both wooden composite and aluminum spar of equal terminal strength...

[jermin]

then why aviators adopted metalic structure and abandoned wooden one while wood is better?

[MikkOwl]

Originally Posted by jermin

then why aviators adopted metalic structure and abandoned wooden one while wood is better?

Being better at a certain type of fatigue does not make it better at everything else. I am sure that metals are both much more durable all-round and have much better strength for any given size and mass. The Mosquito, for example, is very heavy.