Much needed new dll's

[Flanker35M]

S!

Got a Corsair 650W PSU, very good and solid one. No problems handling 5870. And if Fermi really hogs twice or even more wattage than ATI..kind of interesting. And the price will be high, NV has shelled out a lot of money on it and it is late, pressure to get cash flow in instead of out is now needed. Btu for sure will be a good card, no doubt about that.

WhiteSnake, this blocky thing is really strange. I wonder what rig your friend uses, it might be down to a component or setting in BIOS even..

[gprr]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

Got a Corsair 650W PSU, very good and solid one. No problems handling 5870. And if Fermi really hogs twice or even more wattage than ATI..kind of interesting. And the price will be high, NV has shelled out a lot of money on it and it is late, pressure to get cash flow in instead of out is now needed. Btu for sure will be a good card, no doubt about that.

WhiteSnake, this blocky thing is really strange. I wonder what rig your friend uses, it might be down to a component or setting in BIOS even..

Hello Flanker

I absolutly love the relatively low power consumption of ATI single GPU cards. With IL-2 probs in mined but brighter future hopes for Sow coupled wit 5XXX cards - my dream is to have two of these 5870 babies sucking from my Corsair 750TX(not much hedroom left though)

Somewere saw you are running WoP,are cities and explosions well renderd under your rig?

Cheers
gprr

[Flanker35M]

S!

I have said many times that IL-2 is the ONLY game I have issues with running an ATI card. Others, like WoP run flawlessly and very well without a glitch. Even Silent Hunter 5 is a smooth ride ATI has managed to squeeze out good performance without excessive power consumption. If I can run 2 x 5870 with consumption of one Fermi roughly there is a huge difference how much I have to shell out on my system. A really good PSU is NOT cheap and add to that the hefty price tag and you got a lot of invested money for how much perfromance increase? That is to be seen yet.

But as said, ATI works on issue and it will help IL-2 for sure

[AKA_Tenn]

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[PE_Tigar]

How about crashing? I've tried all Catalysts builds since Win 7 Beta came out, but my 2x4850 crashes with all of them after 9.5, except if I put 9.5 atioglxx.dll into the Il2 1946 folder. My rig is fairly dated (C2D 6850, 4GB RAM, 2x4850 in xFire, Windows 7 x64). In my view ATi has really dropped the ball on this one, the only flight sim that has no problems with ATi cards now is X-Plane, all the others that I play (Il2, FSX, WoP, LOMAC: FC, ROF, DCS: BS) are crashing, or have artifacts, or are running incredibly slow... and this has been going on for longer than a year now. Building a new rig just for flight sims may be an option... although I don't like that idea frankly, I already have a huge pile of electronics at home.

[AKA_Tenn]

how many watts is ur PSU... I have a 750w and I'm using a 1x5850 windows 7 x64 i got 4GB of ram... and a E6550 overclocked to 3.4GHz.. no games crash... i play Aion, CoDMW2, GRID, Bioshock 2, GTA4, Dirt 2, IL2 of coarse, DCS:BS... and other games when i get bored... IL2 is the only game i used to have problems with...

I used to have a cheap sparkle 650w and my computer crashed left and right... at first i thought it was my motherboard so i bought a new one... but it still did it... so i bought new ram... still did it... shoulda realized it was cause my comp just wasn't getting enough juice so i went for a more expensive PSU and got a name brand coolmaster 4-rail 750w sustained PSU with >80% efficiency and my computer ran 10x faster and never crashed

[gprr]

AKA_Tenn

If you are really using 5850,your conf.in should look like this:

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TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1>>>>> can be 0-heavier on the rig when looking far
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=0
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=0
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=0
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TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1

TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
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HardwareShaders=1

Shadows=2
Specular=2
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Your current, is a mix for ATI+nVIDIA together

gprr

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by PE_Tigar

How about crashing? I've tried all Catalysts builds since Win 7 Beta came out, but my 2x4850 crashes with all of them after 9.5, except if I put 9.5 atioglxx.dll into the Il2 1946 folder. My rig is fairly dated (C2D 6850, 4GB RAM, 2x4850 in xFire, Windows 7 x64). In my view ATi has really dropped the ball on this one, the only flight sim that has no problems with ATi cards now is X-Plane, all the others that I play (Il2, FSX, WoP, LOMAC: FC, ROF, DCS: BS) are crashing, or have artifacts, or are running incredibly slow... and this has been going on for longer than a year now. Building a new rig just for flight sims may be an option... although I don't like that idea frankly, I already have a huge pile of electronics at home.

Perhaps some one here will convince you otherwise ( like the Iraq war minister ) in denial of any problems.

****** ******

ATI are not the choice of the young gamers out there at the moment so its not just an IL2 problem with ATI, I supply and build PC's and the ATI returns are getting serious now, I can't RMA an ATI card without a fault, what do I tell the manufacturer ? "Sorry cards being returned because the drivers are not good". They don't accept RMA under these circumstances.

I'm not saying Nvidia are any worse or better but for IL2 and other flight sims they are at the moment the only choice unless you are an ATI fanboi and wont consider a move to the darkside

[Flanker35M]

S!

I have ZERO crashes with my card. Every other game works as intended except IL-2. I am not sure why, but I do not overclock or anything. I do not run all kind of crap in the background or whatever. I do not tweak anything I do not know about. So far all good. Biggest reason for hardware NOT working can still be between the keyboard and chair. Not many of us willingly tell that I did this and that and then the system became unstable..Easier to blame manufacturer or someone else than self

Alpha, I am not a fanboi of any brand. And ATI is not any harder to use than nVidia. All so far has worked OK. Either way, nVidia or ATI are both good cards for gaming.

[WhiteSnake]

I got an nVidia SLI rig and a ATI Notebook, and im going with ATI for my next build, even my Notebook (HD4570) makes this game look better than any nVidia card ive seen so far.

Anyway keep in mind you can not use SoundHardware Acceleration and Effects with this game under Windows 7, has to be disabled in the Game and in Wndows, If not you get problems like Lower FPS or even Crashes.
A lot of people than usualy blame the Videocard or Drivers while its really DirectX DirectSound(3D) wich doesnt have Hardware Suport under Windows 7 and Vista.
Only OpenAL Sound still works like it always did, but with a lot of games like IL2 still using DirectX DirectSound(3D) sme people get problems.
(Might help for PE_Tigar)

More explained on it:
http://connect.creativelabs.com/open...%E2%84%A2.aspx


AKA_Tenn nice you try to explain somethin but im not sure if you understand what Dither is/does your self in this game.
Wikipedia wich i normaly wouldnt refer to does exactly explain and show (pictures of cat) what it is and does in this game:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dither#...age_processing