Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

А планируется ли добавление ранних Bf-109 , Ju-87 ,Bf-110 в последующих обновлениях ???

[csThor]

@ DiO

Not at this moment. As you have seen in the current update there are fundamental issues to be sorted out, so that further sub-types of already existing planes aren't exactly high on the priority list.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Interesting this G-factor. Are the G-limits differentiated in planes? For example Fw190 had stronger wings in later versions etc. And for me when looking at the video..the bombrack would break before the plane would. A 500kg bomb would rip itself from the hooks.

Another interesting thing is this g-limit lowering. Modern planes have strain gages measuring the level of strain on critical components of the plane. These planes pull over-G etc. but their G-limit does not drop because of this. It takes some time to build fractures and cracks etc. that would hamper the plane. The over-G causing critical failure would need to be very sharp.

But nevertheless, a very interesting feature. I really am interested in this and how it is implemented. Will there be documentation of this with patch release?

[mkubani]

Flanker, as written in the description, each plane will have its specific G-limit defined.

There will be a very similar and detail guide in PDF as with the 4.09 patch.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Thanks mkubani Must have missed it in all excitement Why I am interested in this G-limit is because of my work with military jets. We do follow the G-limits, strain etc. so some grasp on it

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

Interesting this G-factor. Are the G-limits differentiated in planes? For example Fw190 had stronger wings in later versions etc. And for me when looking at the video..the bombrack would break before the plane would. A 500kg bomb would rip itself from the hooks.

Another interesting thing is this g-limit lowering. Modern planes have strain gages measuring the level of strain on critical components of the plane. These planes pull over-G etc. but their G-limit does not drop because of this. It takes some time to build fractures and cracks etc. that would hamper the plane. The over-G causing critical failure would need to be very sharp.

But nevertheless, a very interesting feature. I really am interested in this and how it is implemented. Will there be documentation of this with patch release?

This is purely from a laymans perspective, and I don't claim to have any engineering knowledge, but couldn't over-stessing an airframe lead to things like elongate bolt holes and deforming bolts, rivets and assorted fasteners at the various stress points? This sort of damage may not cause the wing to fail at that point but would lower the g-limit for the wing?

Like I said I don't claim to be an expert.


Cheers!

[daidalos.team]

FVV190, feel free to translate it. No plans for the super corsair.

[FVV190]

Thanks

[Flanker35M]

S!

That is what happens. rivets loosen, bolts shear or their holes wear, structure like spars and so forth get "tired" of the stress and generate cracks in them. The cracks and damage are more likely if the airframe is stressed a lot already and older if comparing toa totally new one. for example Bf109 had structure life calculated to about 400 hours if flown within limits. This of course did shorten due damage and strain.

I read about Finns losing 2 Bf109's to structural failure in combat. One was in a speed exceeding 900km/h when the wooden tail broke off and plane crashed to ground. Pilot was KIA. The other was a Bf109 losing it's wing in a tight turn due the bolt keeping wing attached failed and broke. Pilot KIA. There are some text about the plane surface buckling or similar after hard turns and older airframes feel "mushier" than new ones. So strain has degrading effect on the plane.

As said, implementing G-factor to IL-2 is very interesting thing Waiting for it very much.

[ECV56_Lancelot]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

This is purely from a laymans perspective, and I don't claim to have any engineering knowledge, but couldn't over-stessing an airframe lead to things like elongate bolt holes and deforming bolts, rivets and assorted fasteners at the various stress points? This sort of damage may not cause the wing to fail at that point but would lower the g-limit for the wing?

Absoulutely right, but for doing that you have to simulate the plastic behaviour of the airframe, and the airframe, and i don´t think that the sim can do that.
I think its a great addition to improve realism, its far from the best, but its better that we had, IMO.

As one mentioned, there will be A LOT of complains from people that are used to move the joy like crazy at any speed.