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Old 02-20-2010, 04:27 AM
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so you choose to slander a company by making allegation without proof?
If you want. I still invite you to provide an alternative explanation. Personally I'd consider that since I can't imagine a plausible alternative explanation, this is the most reasonable explanation. There is no other position that I can take around anything I haven't directly experienced. If you can provide an alternative explanation I'd be quite happy to consider it.
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If you want. I still invite you to provide an alternative explanation. Personally I'd consider that since I can't imagine a plausible alternative explanation, this is the most reasonable explanation. There is no other position that I can take around anything I haven't directly experienced. If you can provide an alternative explanation I'd be quite happy to consider it.


and you lable me a 'troll' lolol

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Riddle me this; why should any developer/ publisher support an outfit which hacks a company's software and (on their public forums) openly supports hacks and intimidation of other companies?


andyjwest... do you not read a thread through or choose to just jump in and reply to what is on the last page? go back and read... post #35 looks interesting and seems quite clear

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Wow, I'm a troll for applying basic logic to a situation. Brilliant.
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Old 02-20-2010, 04:44 AM
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if you call contradiction and slander, with a pinch of evasion 'logic', then yes... you've succeeded


here... let me show you how logic works;



Are you over there (points in that direction)? - No

Are you over here (points in another direction)? - No

If you aren't over there or over here (the directions pointed in), then logically you must be somewhere else? - Yes

If you are somewhere else, you can't be at your screen typing, can you? - err

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if you call contradiction and slander, with a pinch of evasion 'logic', then yes... you've succeeded
Well, I see that determining explanations by a process of elimination has eluded you.

Anyway, as Andy says, I'd hope that head position can be controlled by a standard joystick device in SoW to provide an opportunity for other solutions to be used.

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...and still you evade my honest question - good onya
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...and still you evade my honest question - good onya
Your honest question? In a situation where it is impossible for me to know for sure, you want me to ignore by far the most probable explanation? I know there is some kind of agreement between Ubisoft and NaturalPoint. I know that it is against the rules to speak about Freetrack on the Ubi forums. Therefore, I believe that it is very likely that there is an exclusivity agreement between NaturalPoint and Ubisoft. It's a completely reasonable conclusion to make given the circumstances.
Either way, the current situation where developers support only the closed standard provides the opportunity for abuse, and that is why developers should support joystick view positioning by axis.

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Hacking isn't evil by definition.

If we speak of hacking as in cracking software protection or interfacing with software on our computers without express permission of the original creator (instead of hacking into someone's home network and reading things from their private hard drives): I just don't see anything ethically wrong with it. It's like if I buy a car and then interface with the engine computer unit (ECU?) to alter it's behaviour. Sure, they may void my warranty which is reasonable. But to say I can't do that?


I think the biggest evidence that IC/Maddox Games' policy is to support not just TrackIR, is that ArmA 2, who did special promotion for TrackIR on youtube now has native support for FreeTrack. They are also a major player and they could do it. Surely our Storm of War can too.

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From thefreedictionary.com. I'll look up some others. Wikipedia too.
so you support hacking then, eh?

modding your ECU is illegal in some countries and yeah the vehicle manufacturer is flexing its copyright by voiding the warranty

As I said before, if freetrack (or other) support is totally between freetrack and the game/ sim, then there is no problem, except for maybe on the hardware side of things... the problem is where freetrack (or other) takes advantage of NP software or hardware R&D - have you got it now Mikkowl??

and yeah... do keep looking it up, there's a good boy
Interesting, yes. Clear, no. I have no idea what 'flexing it's copyright by voiding the warranty' could mean - they are two entirely different legal issues. As for 'R&D', if you think that NP were the first in the field, can you explain why they haven't taken on MicroSoft over the issue, given that they have had a 6DOF inteface in their flight sims for some time?
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