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Old 02-17-2010, 11:46 PM
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here i have a compárison of bullets from Fighters of Battle of Britain



A comparison photo of the ammunition used in the Battle with some other rounds is HERE:
from left to right

1) the .303 British (7.7x56R) (Spitfire and Hurricane)

2) .5 inch Vickers (12.7x81)

3).50 Browning (12.7x99) (P-47) (P-40)

4) 20mm Hispano (20x110) (Spitfire 1941)

5) 7.92mm v-Munition (7.92x57) (Bf 109E and Bf 110C)

6) 20mm MG-FFM (20x80RB) (Bf 109E and Bf 110C)

7) 15mm MG 151 (15x96) (Bf109G)

20mm MG 151/20 (20x82) (He 162),

9) 13mm MG 131 (13x64B)
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Old 02-18-2010, 12:28 AM
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Brilliant film Sonko!
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Old 02-18-2010, 01:59 AM
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...bullets from Fighters of Battle of Britain
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15mm MG 151 (15x96) (Bf109G)
20mm MG 151/20 (20x82) (He 162)
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The Bf 109G wasn't involved, and I'm certainly glad the He 162 wasn't! The Battle of Britain was in 1940. Try to at least think, and do a little research before posting.
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Every time I see those munition comparisons I get a strong "wow" effect. Despite seeing it before. The difference is just so enormous visually.

Does all this mean that the Bf 110 is going to have some major firepower vs the Hurricanes and Spitfires? Especially being nose mounted with no convergence problems.
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:32 AM
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The Bf 109G wasn't involved, and I'm certainly glad the He 162 wasn't! The Battle of Britain was in 1940. Try to at least think, and do a little research before posting.
I was write """...A comparison photo of the ammunition used in the Battle with some other rounds is..."""

And I have the same photo but whit more shells in the right: more of the 20mm, 30mm, 37mm. But I have the link in my other machine. Tonight I gonna post that pic.

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Every time I see those munition comparisons I get a strong "wow" effect. Despite seeing it before. The difference is just so enormous visually.

Does all this mean that the Bf 110 is going to have some major firepower vs the Hurricanes and Spitfires? Especially being nose mounted with no convergence problems.
I think the Hurricane have a good center armament, but not for be a bomber hunter. The Spitfire have a ugly bad and not strategic position of the 8 0.303. Maybe if they put the same config that Hurricane armament, this could be perfect.
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Does all this mean that the Bf 110 is going to have some major firepower vs the Hurricanes and Spitfires? Especially being nose mounted with no convergence problems.
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I think the Hurricane have a good center armament, but not for be a bomber hunter. The Spitfire have a ugly bad and not strategic position of the 8 0.303. Maybe if they put the same config that Hurricane armament, this could be perfect.
The difference with the real 110 was that it's rate of roll was very inferior to any single engined fighter, because it's two engines, which are a lot of its weight and a lot of torque too, were relatively very wide from its centre of gravity.
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Old 02-18-2010, 06:08 PM
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I do this myself, soo, if some of you find any error, I dont will sorry!




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correctly one must set Bf109F2 for the 151/15 anf Bf109F4 or F2 field-mod for 151/20.
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here i have a compárison of bullets from Fighters of Battle of Britain



A comparison photo of the ammunition used in the Battle with some other rounds is HERE:
from left to right

1) the .303 British (7.7x56R) (Spitfire and Hurricane)

2) .5 inch Vickers (12.7x81)

3).50 Browning (12.7x99) (P-47) (P-40)

4) 20mm Hispano (20x110) (Spitfire 1941)

5) 7.92mm v-Munition (7.92x57) (Bf 109E and Bf 110C)

6) 20mm MG-FFM (20x80RB) (Bf 109E and Bf 110C)

7) 15mm MG 151 (15x96) (Bf109G)

20mm MG 151/20 (20x82) (He 162),

9) 13mm MG 131 (13x64B)


Here are a couple more:


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How's this for an idea, although I suspect it would have already been proposed. How about rescue planes for downed pilots. if you're shot down and floating in the middle of the sea / ocean, the AI sends a float plane to rescue you. This would make good use of any float planes .. other than targets or anti-shipping.

just an idea.
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