Xbox patch info!

[condorz38]

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk

** The post in question from Anton**

Hi guys.
Unfortunately, no good news.
Publisher thinks that it is not commercially reasonable to create, QA, and release title update for X360.
Releasing PS3 update has not significant impact to sells, and it costs much. DLC was also not very popular (not popular at all).
In addition, I was told to communicate with gamers only via publisher's PR department - that's why I am being quiet silent.

Nothing we can do here with X360 version itself - we've already funded PS3 update from our own pockets (and we do not even benefit from potential sells increase).

So, to make it sweeter we've done the only thing we could done - we'll provide huge (50%) discount on PC version Wings of Prey for consoles users. I know that's not the same (some of console audience even do not have PCs or not gaming PCs), but PC-version is the only published by us.
I'll provide way of getting discount soon (in a few hours), here.

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**EDIT** For those of you with a capable PC, DO IT!!!!! You'll be picking up a bargain that's head & shoulders above BoP. (Fact I'm afraid)

Thank you for trying, but I really do not want to go to PC since it would require uprgrading or replacing my computer and I do not know if my flight stick would work with a pc or not. Offer a sequel or DLC and I will buy it.

[trk29]

Originally Posted by condorz38

Thank you very much for saying we screwed you, but we have a great deal available. You could not get the first game right (because not one plane performs as it should) and now you have the unmitigated gall to say we have a better game on computer for half price. I might, just might buy a sequel since I like this game, but as for the rest of your offer I got to that famous American saying "You Can Kiss My"

No matter what your feelings are that language will not be tolerated. Theres no reason for me to try to convince you that they tried their best with the console version.

[haitch40]

Originally Posted by condorz38

Thank you very much for saying we screwed you, but we have a great deal available. You could not get the first game right (because not one plane performs as it should) and now you have the unmitigated gall to say we have a better game on computer for half price. I might, just might buy a sequel since I like this game, but as for the rest of your offer I got to that famous American saying "You Can Kiss My"

right
1. the console version isnt bad it just could be better
2. its the publishers who ripped us off not anton and the devs

[SEE]

The PC is the better platform for Flight Sims but the question is which is the more convenient for gaming and more suited to on-line play - consoles or PC's? For me its a console but I also accept that a console version will never fully equate to the PC version - something close is all I ask for! There was an opportunity to make BOP as good as it can get for consoles but sadly they missed it!

[SEE]

A lot more response from Anton concerning console sequel, reasons for updating PS3 only, PS3 v Xbox sales, etc.....worth reading on the Yu-play forum...........

[TRC Subaru]

Originally Posted by SEE

A lot more response from Anton concerning console sequel, reasons for updating PS3 only, PS3 v Xbox sales, etc.....worth reading on the Yu-play forum...........

Thanks for the update Evangels, could you (or someone) please cut and past the info you mention here? I can't get to the site right now.

Thanks!

[SEE]

Antoms answers are in blue..................names of people asking the questions not shown (in Italics).

hey anton just a quick question,what's your honest opinion about flight sims being on consoles?do you think that the market is there to sustain a continual community with DLC and other things,i ask because BOP is really the only one trying to do the full sim thing,the blazing angels games dont count an neither does heroe over europe.Or do you think that with all the problems regarding the bop patch for 360 and the fact sims are niche titles,that there is a future for them?


I think, they will be one or two more shots in this generation. Probably, from us
But I don't think DLC thing is going to work. Yes, DLC that was released by 505 was pverpriced, but there is no any other flightsim game on the market and 5% DLC buy rate would be reasonable - but it never reachs this rate.

there had to have been more sales for the 360


1. PS3 vesion outsells X360 version.
2. MS charges for update itself, Sony charges only for traffic.
3. PS3 could have been improved more (support of some PC USB flight-sticks, for example, is impossible).

So, for less money publisher made better update for more people. That was reasonable.
However, sells haven't been improved, nor for the game itself, neither for DLC.

I am not excusing anyone, I am just explaining. As for me, it would be very reasonable to make update for X360 version as well, while the game is still selling.
But I am not the decision maker here.

am i right in saying that now bop development is dead and i need to pin my hopes on you guys making a sequal??


We are very willing to make sequel (and are doing some development already, incorporating new features to Wings of Prey).
We hope, we'll sign deal with some publisher (developers can't release X360 game themselves, without publisher, even on XB Live) - the Birds of Prey was successful, probably not the best title of all times, but meets expectations.
We do not have publishing deal signed yet.


I gather from the above that the Xbox patch was never developed and that the sales of the patched PS3 version failed to improve (less than 5% sales for the DLC).

The PS3 was technically better in that it supported PC joysticks and the cost of releasing the patch for the PS3 was far cheaper than for MS Xbox due to differences between Sony and Microsoft regarding the costs of updates.

[TRC Subaru]

Anton - "We are very willing to make sequel (and are doing some development already, incorporating new features to Wings of Prey).
We hope, we'll sign deal with some publisher"

Hopeful news...thanks Evangels

[twentyONE]

Well I am glad to hear this! Sounds like they are working on a console sequal (maybe 'Wings of Prey'??) and that they obviously will be going with a different publisher but have not chosen one yet. I am also glad to hear that 'BoP' has sold enough to justify a sequal.

Something has to be done about the availability and ease for buying great flightsticks for the XBOX 360.
I think Microsoft should just third party 'HORI' to produce more "Ace Edge" flightsticks and make them available at either Wal-Mart or Best Buy.... or Microsoft needs to open the market for compatable flightsticks for the 360.

Well, The devs did a great job on this game and I wish them continued success. It is too bad that 505 had to screw up the update and their relationship with the devs and the gaming community. HOWEVER this is still a GREAT game that is really fun! I am hopeful for the sequal and I wish that everything goes better for the devs this time around.

Thanks again 1C and Gaijan for your hard work and making such a great game!