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Old 02-14-2010, 11:38 AM
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A New contestant Appears:

Ancient Phoenix, I choose you!
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Old 02-14-2010, 12:03 PM
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Ancient Phoenix, I choose you!
Indeed I mentioned the AP in an earlier post. With 140-240 dmg and 40% crit it's an extremely strong candidate, and that's without considering that, to reflect the "rebirth" talent, it should be killed twice...

On the other hand maybe it should be considered out of league, a sort of "lvl 6".

BTW are there any mods who make AP just buyable? Imagine an army with 20-30 of them...

Trex vs AD: at first I thought the best Trex can do is a draw, since AD can keep teleporting away. But if primal fear works on AD, then - albeit very slowly - Trex could win.

However, if you are right about how "halve" works (I suspect it works on number of troops rather than overall health and would thus be useless in a one-on-one fight) then AD would have an excellent chance of taking down the Trex.
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Old 02-14-2010, 07:24 PM
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The halve works...

I just faced a few Arch demons with my 1 bone dragon, 4 black and 5 red dragons and in round 1 the AD halved my Bonedragon, leaving it with 395hp..
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Old 02-14-2010, 07:30 PM
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This changes things quite a bit... I suppose this makes the archdemon once again favorite versus the ancient ent and the t-rex, if not against the ancient phoenix. But maybe with his fire resistance he trumps even that one.
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Old 02-14-2010, 07:32 PM
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I correct myself, the t-rex has higher leadership so is immune.
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Old 02-14-2010, 08:27 PM
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Ancient Phoenix has 1 leadership, so yeah, he wins that one too.

I know.. you say '1 leadership, really?'. It is true however. I believe this is so that you wouldn't summon one and have it immediately go berserk? Not sure.
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:18 PM
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BTW are there any mods who make AP just buyable? Imagine an army with 20-30 of them...
That would be great, Ancient Phoenix is otherwise completely useless and pointless to summon over any other spell.
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:00 PM
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That would be great, Ancient Phoenix is otherwise completely useless and pointless to summon over any other spell.
Couldn't agree more. I only used the phoenix in my very first KB:TL game and never after that. Rather a waste of mana and crystals.
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Old 02-15-2010, 04:28 AM
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Couldn't agree more. I only used the phoenix in my very first KB:TL game and never after that. Rather a waste of mana and crystals.
Actually, if you rush to tier 3 order as soon as you can, the ancient phoenix pretty much destroys anything it faces on the first 4 islands. With one red dragon and tier 3 order, you can get to 30+ easy.
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:14 AM
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Early Phoenix is amazing, I agree. Even Order 2 mature phoenix's will pull through the hardest part of the game (Rusty anchor) very nicely.

Late game I use it as a 2-of tank. Once on the first turn to light things on fire and lock down an archer stack, and again when it resurrects. It has similar utility to Demon Portal.

Now, Nature's Call.. there's a spell I cringe every time I pick up a scroll for it.
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