Friday 2010-01-15 Screenshots AND Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by HFC_Dolphin

Yeap, I agree Insuber (and rest of those who objected) and maybe I didn't make myself clear.

What I mean is: the plane graphics I have seen so far have not made me say: "WOW!!!"
They are definitely more detailed than IL-2's, but in the end, it's only like seeing a better worked IL-2; not something revolutionary, keeping in mind that we're 10 years after (recall that rock band? lol) the initial release of IL-2. What I see so far is closer to the great work done by some of the modders in IL-2. And definitely I expect more in 2010.

And that's why I said from the first minute that I want to belive that final product will be much better, cause what I see so far does not live up to my expectations.

In any case, I know that Oleg is listening. So far, whenever a serious objection has been heard, he has worked on it almost immediately. I know he likes more than everyone the good words on his work, but above all he likes to hear suggestions and comments that can help him deliver the best.
He's such a perfectionist that he'll listen to anyone, if he can get something good out of it, and that's why he's the developer closest to the community than anyone else in this industry.
I know that he has a better feeling than all of us of what he can do and what he has done so far, that's why I trust that in the end I will say that "WOW!!!" .


PS. By the way, one more thing I need to make clear: for me it's the rest of the game that matters most (FM, DM, mission generator/campaigns...) and not the graphics. I'm just commenting to what I've seen so far.

Im with you on this one Dolphin, I would like to see that Oleg has used all the latest technology to get the best results on how the sim finally looks, if you compare the visuals of the origianl Call of duty to Call of duty World at War you can clearly see the advance in technology that has been used. At this moment in time and I know we are still a long long way off completeion but I'm just not seeing it, like you I just see a tarted up Il2. Maybe this time next year I will be more excited.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Im with you on this one Dolphin, I would like to see that Oleg has used all the latest technology to get the best results on how the sim finally looks, if you compare the visuals of the origianl Call of duty to Call of duty World at War you can clearly see the advance in technology that has been used. At this moment in time and I know we are still a long long way off completeion but I'm just not seeing it, like you I just see a tarted up Il2. Maybe this time next year I will be more excited.

your like a whiny little kid, even after getting banned from here for several weeks for all the negative crap you keep posting you'r still at it. your stuck in this childish mindset of constantly complaining and seem to have the expectation mommy is going to plonk a breast in your mouth if you just whine enough

by all indications BoB is well on track and will be released in the next few months, if you dont like the previews being posted how about you just piss off and only return in september when it is going to be on the shelves

for anybody with half a brain it is obvious oleg is just posting some selected previews of specific items at the moment to keep us informed and start building some expectation in the fan base, but is not showing enough to give a true indication of BoB in all its glory yet so he doesnt give to much away to the competition either (no terrain detail, no final textures and color schemes, only a few selected objects, limited info on dynamic campaign engine...)

since we already know 80 or 90% of individual components of the game are finished already (plane and ground models, campaign engine, weather effects, maps...etc) and oleg skips the alpha phase completely by then integrating these nearly finished elements directly into a beta stage product for fine tuning and testing, i would say we are very well on track for having "1000's of people flying BoB by the anniversary of BoB in 2010" as oleg stated himself recently (meaning september 2010 i presume)

[zapatista]

on a more joyfull note

redbull air race pilot flies spitfire on the island of white, comparing the performance of both planes

http://www.spitfiresociety.com/conte...ersus_MX2.html

some nice shots of the spitfire with some very white looking chalk cliffs in the background

Originally Posted by zapatista

your like a whiny little kid, even after getting banned from here for several weeks for all the negative crap you keep posting you'r still at it. your stuck in this childish mindset of constantly complaining and seem to have the expectation mommy is going to plonk a breast in your mouth if you just whine enough

by all indications BoB is well on track and will be released in the next few months, if you dont like the previews being posted how about you just piss off and only return in september when it is going to be on the shelves

for anybody with half a brain it is obvious oleg is just posting some selected previews of specific items at the moment to keep us informed and start building some expectation in the fan base, but is not showing enough to give a true indication of BoB in all its glory yet so he doesnt give to much away to the competition either (no terrain detail, no final textures and color schemes, only a few selected objects, limited info on dynamic campaign engine...)

since we already know 80 or 90% of individual components of the game are finished already (plane and ground models, campaign engine, weather effects, maps...etc) and oleg skips the alpha phase completely by then integrating these nearly finished elements directly into a beta stage product for fine tuning and testing, i would say we are very well on track for having "1000's of people flying BoB by the anniversary of BoB in 2010" as oleg stated himself recently (meaning september 2010 i presume)

Very constructive post Zapatista, look if you want to be a beta tester just ask.

and Oleg is holding back on all the great stuff so that the competition wont nick all is work, can I ask what competition we are talking about here? Is it WOP per chance owned by Maddox games?

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

and Oleg is holding back on all the great stuff so that the competition wont nick all is work, can I ask what competition we are talking about here? Is it WOP per chance owned by Maddox games?

That's rather naive. RoF can be seen as competition and so will any future combat-flight-sim that's released. With the scope Oleg wants to offer with SoW, then even jet sims will be seen as competition.

[Skarphol]

While we are on the DH-82 Tiger Moth:

Norway tried it out with armament!!
Here, the machinegun is visible in the front cockpit:


And here is the gun installation:


I'm really not sure but I think this idea was meant for training student pilots in aerial gunnery. I assume the gun is synchronized with the propeller.

Skarphol

[proton45]

Wow, the cockpit textures are really impressive. I can almost feel the faded green wood of the cockpit fame. And the chrome of the windshield frame and the leather padding...is magnificent!!!

It dose make me wonder about the sound engine...All these great cockpit graphics really, really make me wonder what we can expect from the sound engine. As we fly around the world (in game) we will see the light reflecting off the chrome and we will see shadows moving across our dashboard, and window frame. And all these "dynamic lighting" tricks help put us into the world of the game.

But what about sound? For example; as we sit in the cockpit of the "Tiger moth" and turn our head left and right, the tone and intensity of the wind, engine and flapping cloth will change in relation to our position. All these little changes in tone and intensity will add to "our" perception of our place in the virtual world (cockpit). I have never really heard a truly convincing use of 21st century gaming technology in a flight-sim's sound engine.

Their is sooo much that remains to be done...the sound of a shaking and straining (squeaking) air frame as we push the "G's". The change in volume and tone as we move our head around the cockpit. Buffeting wind that mimics the actual "virtual weather front". Or how about the subtle change in our perception of sound as the altitude increases?

Please excuse my slightly "off topic" musing's....thanks

[flyingbullseye]

Originally Posted by Skarphol

I assume the gun is synchronized with the propeller.

Skarphol

Probably a pretty good assumption, or some poor fool drew the short straw with his enemies in the squadron.

Flyingbullseye

[Avimimus]

Originally Posted by Skarphol

...I'm really not sure but I think this idea was meant for training student pilots in aerial gunnery. I assume the gun is synchronized with the propeller.

Skarphol

I'm sure one could massacre European Cariboo (Reindeer) with it. I'm glad they didn't. I suppose most of the remaining herds were semi-domesticated at the time? So, the Sami would be unhappy.

Anyway, it would be a nice field mod to have. It would be funny to fly against the Me-262...