Friday 2010-01-15 Screenshots AND Discussion Thread

[Insuber]

Dolphin,

At a first glance one can think the same, especially on externals, but then one should realise that the details are 10x those of Il2, the materials look much more realistic (wood, paint, glass, leather, chromium), shadows and lighting are in another league, and (cross fingers) the rendering is not yet the final one.

Bye,
Insuber

Originally Posted by HFC_Dolphin

Thanks for the update!
I like the leather touch on the stick

By the way, every time I see the planes' pictures from the updates I say to myself: "I hope the final product will be better. I'm sure it will be!"
Though I don't think that graphics are the most serious part of a game, my opinion so far is that graphics are much alike IL-2's graphics.
I don't see any revolution there, and that's why I say this mandra to myself. I want to be sure that final product in high-detail mode will be surprisingly good! (Like I said "WOW" with sea and ships).

Once again, thanks for showing another target

[HFC_Dolphin]

Yeap, I agree Insuber (and rest of those who objected) and maybe I didn't make myself clear.

What I mean is: the plane graphics I have seen so far have not made me say: "WOW!!!"
They are definitely more detailed than IL-2's, but in the end, it's only like seeing a better worked IL-2; not something revolutionary, keeping in mind that we're 10 years after (recall that rock band? lol) the initial release of IL-2. What I see so far is closer to the great work done by some of the modders in IL-2. And definitely I expect more in 2010.

And that's why I said from the first minute that I want to belive that final product will be much better, cause what I see so far does not live up to my expectations.

In any case, I know that Oleg is listening. So far, whenever a serious objection has been heard, he has worked on it almost immediately. I know he likes more than everyone the good words on his work, but above all he likes to hear suggestions and comments that can help him deliver the best.
He's such a perfectionist that he'll listen to anyone, if he can get something good out of it, and that's why he's the developer closest to the community than anyone else in this industry.
I know that he has a better feeling than all of us of what he can do and what he has done so far, that's why I trust that in the end I will say that "WOW!!!" .


PS. By the way, one more thing I need to make clear: for me it's the rest of the game that matters most (FM, DM, mission generator/campaigns...) and not the graphics. I'm just commenting to what I've seen so far.

Originally Posted by HFC_Dolphin

Yeap, I agree Insuber (and rest of those who objected) and maybe I didn't make myself clear.

What I mean is: the plane graphics I have seen so far have not made me say: "WOW!!!"
They are definitely more detailed than IL-2's, but in the end, it's only like seeing a better worked IL-2; not something revolutionary, keeping in mind that we're 10 years after (recall that rock band? lol) the initial release of IL-2. What I see so far is closer to the great work done by some of the modders in IL-2. And definitely I expect more in 2010.

And that's why I said from the first minute that I want to belive that final product will be much better, cause what I see so far does not live up to my expectations.

In any case, I know that Oleg is listening. So far, whenever a serious objection has been heard, he has worked on it almost immediately. I know he likes more than everyone the good words on his work, but above all he likes to hear suggestions and comments that can help him deliver the best.
He's such a perfectionist that he'll listen to anyone, if he can get something good out of it, and that's why he's the developer closest to the community than anyone else in this industry.
I know that he has a better feeling than all of us of what he can do and what he has done so far, that's why I trust that in the end I will say that "WOW!!!" .


PS. By the way, one more thing I need to make clear: for me it's the rest of the game that matters most (FM, DM, mission generator/campaigns...) and not the graphics. I'm just commenting to what I've seen so far.

Im with you on this one Dolphin, I would like to see that Oleg has used all the latest technology to get the best results on how the sim finally looks, if you compare the visuals of the origianl Call of duty to Call of duty World at War you can clearly see the advance in technology that has been used. At this moment in time and I know we are still a long long way off completeion but I'm just not seeing it, like you I just see a tarted up Il2. Maybe this time next year I will be more excited.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Im with you on this one Dolphin, I would like to see that Oleg has used all the latest technology to get the best results on how the sim finally looks, if you compare the visuals of the origianl Call of duty to Call of duty World at War you can clearly see the advance in technology that has been used. At this moment in time and I know we are still a long long way off completeion but I'm just not seeing it, like you I just see a tarted up Il2. Maybe this time next year I will be more excited.

your like a whiny little kid, even after getting banned from here for several weeks for all the negative crap you keep posting you'r still at it. your stuck in this childish mindset of constantly complaining and seem to have the expectation mommy is going to plonk a breast in your mouth if you just whine enough

by all indications BoB is well on track and will be released in the next few months, if you dont like the previews being posted how about you just piss off and only return in september when it is going to be on the shelves

for anybody with half a brain it is obvious oleg is just posting some selected previews of specific items at the moment to keep us informed and start building some expectation in the fan base, but is not showing enough to give a true indication of BoB in all its glory yet so he doesnt give to much away to the competition either (no terrain detail, no final textures and color schemes, only a few selected objects, limited info on dynamic campaign engine...)

since we already know 80 or 90% of individual components of the game are finished already (plane and ground models, campaign engine, weather effects, maps...etc) and oleg skips the alpha phase completely by then integrating these nearly finished elements directly into a beta stage product for fine tuning and testing, i would say we are very well on track for having "1000's of people flying BoB by the anniversary of BoB in 2010" as oleg stated himself recently (meaning september 2010 i presume)

[zapatista]

on a more joyfull note

redbull air race pilot flies spitfire on the island of white, comparing the performance of both planes

http://www.spitfiresociety.com/conte...ersus_MX2.html

some nice shots of the spitfire with some very white looking chalk cliffs in the background

Originally Posted by zapatista

your like a whiny little kid, even after getting banned from here for several weeks for all the negative crap you keep posting you'r still at it. your stuck in this childish mindset of constantly complaining and seem to have the expectation mommy is going to plonk a breast in your mouth if you just whine enough

by all indications BoB is well on track and will be released in the next few months, if you dont like the previews being posted how about you just piss off and only return in september when it is going to be on the shelves

for anybody with half a brain it is obvious oleg is just posting some selected previews of specific items at the moment to keep us informed and start building some expectation in the fan base, but is not showing enough to give a true indication of BoB in all its glory yet so he doesnt give to much away to the competition either (no terrain detail, no final textures and color schemes, only a few selected objects, limited info on dynamic campaign engine...)

since we already know 80 or 90% of individual components of the game are finished already (plane and ground models, campaign engine, weather effects, maps...etc) and oleg skips the alpha phase completely by then integrating these nearly finished elements directly into a beta stage product for fine tuning and testing, i would say we are very well on track for having "1000's of people flying BoB by the anniversary of BoB in 2010" as oleg stated himself recently (meaning september 2010 i presume)

Very constructive post Zapatista, look if you want to be a beta tester just ask.

and Oleg is holding back on all the great stuff so that the competition wont nick all is work, can I ask what competition we are talking about here? Is it WOP per chance owned by Maddox games?

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

and Oleg is holding back on all the great stuff so that the competition wont nick all is work, can I ask what competition we are talking about here? Is it WOP per chance owned by Maddox games?

That's rather naive. RoF can be seen as competition and so will any future combat-flight-sim that's released. With the scope Oleg wants to offer with SoW, then even jet sims will be seen as competition.