Help needed

[SlipBall]

A bump for what sounds like a great idea, goodluck finding some good people!

[JG6_Express]

Thanks Slipball,

The interest in full real dynamic campaigns has maintained a strong following since the early days of VEF.
JG10r_Duterure created the Bellum Wars using his code BADC. Since 2004, there have been other individuals/squads who have hosted BADC styled campaigns in HyperLobby.
Currently the Russian squad =BY= is hosting AW which is very popular.
Having another venue for online wars would give others a chance to particpate in it's creation and give pilots another online dynamic campaign to fly in.
With that said, a project like this needs volunteers. It would take me as a individual way to long to get it to the final stages. I am hoping that there are those in the flight sim community with the above mentioned skills that would like to get in on this project.
~S~

[Eries]

Some of the original full real dynamic campaigns/online wars came to an unnatural end due to rampaging cheaters.
Especially now with the proliferation of illegal mods into the community , what steps are you taking to ensure fair and cheat free game play for this new campaign ?

- Eries

[13th Hsqn Protos]

βΙΝΓΟ!

You should be advertising, server rules settings, minimum netspeed, time limits, crt measures, ect ect ....

The cheating countermeasures suggestion is excellent. Also you may want to look into encouraging mission completion over personal stats.

Good luck. Its a lot of bloody work and very little reward.

[JG6_Express]

When our early anscestors were huddled around a fire and some guy decided to bet his fur cape by tossing some bird bones onto the dirt, there was someone in the group trying to cheat. It hasn't changed nor will it. There will always be those who have to cheat.
Fortunately their numbers are small compared to the huge numbers of honorable squads and pilots.
Having flown with the online community since 1999 to the present, I have had the pleasure to have met pilots/squads from almost every country in the world. Met meaning on voice comm's or thru chat. Men just like ourselves who enjoy a fair and honorable game. I personally believe that the vast numbers of pilots who fly full real dynamic online wars are of the fair and honorable quality.
The fact that IL2 is now coming up to 9 years of age and we still can fill 3 rooms in Hyperlobby at the same time with a "BADC" styled war campaign makes the point that it is still popular.

I agree Protos that it is alot of work with little reward. However, I have had the pleasure of flying in every BADC campaign since the beginning and now want to contribute back. The reward is in the particpation and the opportunity to meet new people who have similar interests in this project. Many hands make the workload less.

Can we ever get it perfect? No. Can we please everyone at all times? No.
But we can put together a fun project that many will get countless hours of enjoyment from. Hopefully there are others with the skills or abilities needed who will hop on board.
That is my hope.


~S~

[Eries]

Originally Posted by JG6_Express

I personally believe that the vast numbers of pilots who fly full real dynamic online wars are of the fair and honorable quality.


~S~

Your contention is proven incorrect by the facts. It's not an opinion , mine our anyone else's , that cheating resulted in the end of the previous online wars - Its the facts. The facts , are , well , the facts , sad an unfortunate as they may be.
If you contend that a vast " majority " are fair and honorable , then that may be more reasonable.
However , there is a considerable " minority " of active players in online wars that resort to blatant cheating. This is a fact and proven by the previous online campaigns that were brought to an untimely end by unfair play.
I think its important that anyone considering contributing time and energy to your proposed event , be also educated on the risk that thier good work may be destroyed by cheating.
If your singular anti-cheating measure is " trust" , then the result will be the same as we've seen before. Any competition will be rendered invalid by a minorty of untrustworthy participants.

Sorry , i was initially interested , but now it seems any investment in this event will not yield acceptable results.

- Eries

[JG6_Express]

Anyone who is involved with the WOG project, please contact me. I would like to discuss some options with you.

~S~