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Old 01-04-2010, 11:45 PM
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What I love are all the biggest forum trolls posing as reluctant Cassandras burdened with the cruel responsibility of speaking the unpleasant truth. "Oh yeah, you know, I have been patiently and good-naturedly waiting ALL this time for the patch to come out but now I finally have to admit its not coming" Yeah right, you guys, you know who you are, have been saying the patch was never going to come out since early October. In fact I remember a lot of rumor threads on this forum back then from some guy claiming to be a 505 insider saying the patch wasn't coming out. Then the PS3 patch came out. Just wait, or don't I don't care, but the only thing any of us knows for certain is that none of us knows anything for certain about the 360 patch.

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Old 01-05-2010, 11:32 AM
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It does seem to have been in QA for a long, long time.

I dont see how Infinity Ward can get a patch through in mere days and 505 cannot seem to get a patch through in 6 months.

Whats going on?
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Old 01-05-2010, 03:26 PM
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It does seem to have been in QA for a long, long time.

I dont see how Infinity Ward can get a patch through in mere days and 505 cannot seem to get a patch through in 6 months.

Whats going on?
Because there is a lot more money in that game and it was one of the most anticipated games of the year.
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Old 01-05-2010, 07:47 PM
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just to remind my aging brain, does it actually cost the dev or publisher to release a patch. Anyone know how much?
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Old 01-05-2010, 07:58 PM
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just to remind my aging brain, does it actually cost the dev or publisher to release a patch. Anyone know how much?
As far as im aware all it costs is the time it takes to sort it. Guys still earn their pay packet so they should be doing it. Its a sore subject at the mo to be honest.
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:03 PM
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is there a queue for patches? ( or has everyone done too much meth over the festive season? )
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:16 PM
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No que.

1) game has issues players complain it needs a patch
2) weeks later they amdit its got issues and they will patch it
3) months later they say the patch is ready
4) send it for certification with relevant company
5) they say its fine and then a couple of weeks later we get our patch, everyones happy


as it is were at stage 4 or 5.

Its straight forward to be honest, but IF MS have sent it back then to be quite frank it must be a shocking job they have done on the patch. At the end of the day its either with Anton and co or MS, we just dont know how to find out because nobody will tell us.

If everyone could establish what they know we could all piece this puzzle together, but its a bloody mass of confusion at the mo

In good time im sure we'll hear something from someone.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:42 AM
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just to remind my aging brain, does it actually cost the dev or publisher to release a patch. Anyone know how much?
It costs the developer the wages, rent and bills for the duration of development. The publisher may or may not pay for this (in this case, not). And it also costs the publisher to release the patch via Sony/MS. None of which they will see in returns.

I don't know how much the manufacturers charge to release the patch, but the average game industry worker salary in the UK* is around £30k/year (more if they're contract workers rather than permanent employees). So if you have 5 guys working on it for 1 month that is £12,500 in salary, with rent and bills on top.

*Note - we get shafted compared to our US counter-parts, but then I wouldn't want to speculate on the Russian salaries.
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:24 AM
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It costs the developer the wages, rent and bills for the duration of development. The publisher may or may not pay for this (in this case, not). And it also costs the publisher to release the patch via Sony/MS. None of which they will see in returns.

I don't know how much the manufacturers charge to release the patch, but the average game industry worker salary in the UK* is around ??30k/year (more if they're contract workers rather than permanent employees). So if you have 5 guys working on it for 1 month that is ??12,500 in salary, with rent and bills on top.

*Note - we get shafted compared to our US counter-parts, but then I wouldn't want to speculate on the Russian salaries.
if people find I'm a bit partisan about this forum well its the quality of responses such as the above...

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Old 01-06-2010, 10:32 AM
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if people find I'm a bit partisan about this forum well its the quality of responses such as the above...
Umm...not sure if that was positive or negative...
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