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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-04-2010, 04:42 PM
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Grunch, that was a K.O.

I don't see any "top pilot" flying it or replacing IL-2 with it. Name one.

It's good for fun, but if you want a flight simulator, you're looking at the wrong place.

'Nuff said, can the ladies start behaving like grown ups? Protos' been trolling around for a while with his all-might Wings of Prey, and it's starting to piss some people off.

Wings of Prey is good for action-filled flying, with loads of drama and all that thing. No one who likes realism, unless really drunk, will replace IL-2 with Wings of Prey. It just won't happen. "Top pilots" might play it for fun, but for a decent flight experience? Nope. I won't spend my time looking through the WoP forum to see what the heck you did there, but, here's the thought: as Grunch pointed out, you shouldn't need high textures to convince someone to play a game AT ALL. Maybe, and just maybe, if we were talking about a porn/sex simulator, we'd need decent textures to get a decent vision of the... Ah, nevermind. So, as I was saying, FLIGHT simulators shouldn't need high texture settings to make you play. FLIGHT simulators need decent FLYING to get new players. And this isn't there yet on Birds of Prey. Maybe one day they'll do some fine tuning with all the details that kept simmers away of it. The problem is, even if they get it fixed, it will still have that movie-like look, with all the filters and everything.

The fact is: want fun, balance and good-looking scenario? Go for Wings of Prey. Want realism, decent simulation and realistic atmosphere? Stick with IL-2.

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Old 01-04-2010, 04:53 PM
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The problem is, even if they get if fixed, it will still have that movie-like look, with all the filters and everything.
The disappointing thing is, there's a politely-worded post on their forum that demonstrates the difference between the game with the brown-filter and the game retouched in Photoshop and the difference is stunning. The game really would look absolutely fantastic without it. But do you see the developers listening to that poll that requests an option to remove the brownness? Nope.
It's going to become a joke in the future of flightsims, "Do you remember Wings of Prey?" "Yeah, it was more brown than Quake!"
If Oleg had brought out Wings of Prey himself, I would be more disappointed than I was a few years ago when Oblivion came out, I played it for two hours and realised it wasn't as good as Morrowind despite the hype. For much the same reasons - reducing complexity and enjoyable gameplay in favour of graphics.
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Old 01-04-2010, 05:12 PM
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TheGrunch, can you copy and post this guy's message here, or at least give us a link? Might be interesting for the folks who actually think it's realistic...
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Old 01-04-2010, 05:40 PM
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Yeah, sure. Currently the poll requesting the option is up to 41 for, 3 against:
http://forum.yuplay.com/index.php?showtopic=683

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Exemples were touched up under photoshop, they are not intented to be accurate but just to give you a fair taste of what this graphic setting would do.

original tinted:


more natural tone


original tinted:


more natural tone


original tinted:


more natural tone
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Old 01-04-2010, 05:43 PM
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Woooah, way better!

If this was properly introduced in-game, I might even consider buying it.

43 against 3 is a pretty big difference.
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Old 01-04-2010, 06:56 PM
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Woooah, way better!
I dunno, I think somewhere between the two, maybe about 2/3 of the way toward the blue would be more realistic (with my eyes, on my monitor).
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Old 01-04-2010, 09:19 PM
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That's why I mentioned "properly" there.

This way it's still unrealistic. Thing is, why not be normal and use the same settings as IL-2, anyway? Did they HAVE to make it Holywoodish, in first place? Of course, matter of taste, but still...
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