Stuck at Verona...

[Urbz]

Originally Posted by basis

Hi all, playing my first game in KB:AP.

Playing normal difficulty, mage, leadership about 3.2K
army setup: normal bears, polar bears, 15 or 16 black beholders, 1 dragon (black? the first dragon unit we find I think on Bolo island), 2 cyclops.

I think my attack is 1, defense is 5 and intel is about 9. I know it is pretty crappy stats. my pet dragon is level 16. I cannot remember my level.

I cleared most of Rusty except for 2 units, Zig-zag and a group of Thorns that are guarding some treasure. When I right-click on Zig-Zag it says Lethal to me. And the Thorns that guard the treasure on Rusty is also Lethal.

I can go to Verona, but the units there are also Lethal to Invincible as well. I think I cleared most of the Strong units in Verona, but they town is protected by Very Strong or Lethal units.

I didn't know about map kiting until I read about it in this forum, but is there any other way to defeat those units on Rusty Island? Or advise me what I maybe doing wrong. Or should I be learning some spell that I may have missed? I have Order at lvl 2, Distortion at lvl 1 and Chaos at lvl 1.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Whats going wrong? I assume your units are dying, if so i'd say try to throw in some ressurection power, inquisitors are the most common to get but often after you got your 2nd stone you can buy paladins at the mage tower on the first island and if you're lucky you could also try demonologists.
On normal i'd say it should be doable without mapkiting, i finished the game without it at least and imo it feels alot more rewarding to play through the game like you should, at least for the first playthrough.

[basis]

Yes my units are dying. Especially being swarmed by superior numbers. Like one of the enemy units had like 700+ Devilfishes and they took out my black dragon in like 1 bite. And thanks for the advice on using units with resurrection.

btw does resurrecting dead units count towards the 'no-loss' battle medal? Another one of those tricks which I didn't know about at the start of the game till I read the forums. I am still at 7/10 of my 'no-loss' medal.

[Elwin]

yep it does count

[littleduckie]

Originally Posted by basis

Yes my units are dying. Especially being swarmed by superior numbers. Like one of the enemy units had like 700+ Devilfishes and they took out my black dragon in like 1 bite. And thanks for the advice on using units with resurrection.

btw does resurrecting dead units count towards the 'no-loss' battle medal? Another one of those tricks which I didn't know about at the start of the game till I read the forums. I am still at 7/10 of my 'no-loss' medal.

Don't charge the enemy.. in the instance of devilfish, the black dragon's range (or speed rather) is very much superior so "kite" it around the map (Slow spell helps) while you whittle it down with ranged units (that's a weakness of your setup I think.. too few ranged units... and three "tank" types).

Also would suggest going for units with more interesting abilities (like Demonlogists) that will provide you more tactical options. As a mage you do NOT want to play a "brute"-force attempt to the game by having units that directly the enemy due to your low leadership.

[Nenea]

I'm play too and i stuck but after my battle is with units who is week or equal strengt with me.
If have no choice i fighting wit units who is more strong then i.
My great units is Cyclops and I have 5. I try to save to no die because is archer and is rare.

Because i search and i fight with troups more week then me i have 8/10 of my 'no-loss' medal (this is for basis )
Anyway after any battle i suply my lost units.
God Luck

[Zechnophobe]

Hmm, you have 5 cyclops' IN YOUR ARMY or 5 total you can buy from? Because if you only have 8/10 in grand strategy, and 7000 leadership, you are getting a fair bit behind!

Remember that those cyclopses have high resistance and HP, and do more damage in melee than range. Go to melee with them, and let everything hide behind. It is a great trick early game, especially since cyclopses are plentiful in Bola a lot of the time.

[Nenea]

Yes, in Bola island was 5 cyclops and i buy'it all. Leadership of one cyclops is 1400 and i have 5 but i need more because my leadership is 8775.
And where i can find pirates ?