general tips n tricks for new players

[Omghalsasi]

@oody:yeah great tip for the tutorial! Dvide the 5 paladins u get during tutorial in each of the available slot then keep on granting turns to ur fellow paladins and resurrecting them!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 no loss victories even on impossible !

[Zechnophobe]

You don't need to divide them, a single stack is fine. Probably won't even need to cast resurrect even.

One thing to note: For all of those people saying that they don't need glory because they have 1k leadership already because of map kiting, I think you are missing the point. The point is that for people who do not kite maps, either because they don't want or don't know to, it is much better advice to spend a few early runes on Glory to make up for the harsh leadership scenario early on.

[Elwin]

well if they kilte just for 1000 ld they are weak kiters lol. I got like 7-8k last time on my paladin xD

[bmcelvan]

what does kite mean?

[KongMysen]

It means that you lure enemies, guarding maps a few inches away, so that you can snatch the map without engaging a fight.
This way you'll be able to travel to other islands and solve non-fighting quest, visit shrines, collect treasures etc.

There's alot of mixed oppinions about this technique, since the enemy guarding maps are supposed to be immobile. Luring them away with lots of quick-saving and loading is really exploiting a small glitch, and can give you a tremendous advantage. Being level 20ish kinda makes no-loss fights on Debir a blitz.

However since it requires no bot or cheat codes it can't really be considered cheating... Can it?

[travelingoz]

Actually DGD, I'm just using black dragons in my current mage run through with the new gift pack and I still find transmute very useful. I'm tending to use the dragons to collect the chests and spamming demon portal level 3 on the first round. I have the scaly set and twinkling boots, so once i just stone skin and then mana spring every round on whatever has come out of the portal! All of the enemy stacks surround the demons and generally from Montero onwards, by round 10 when mana regeneration starts halving, the summoned demons start finishing the remaining stacks off.
Combined with the Wanderer's gloves and level 1 Teleport, this sure beats the old mana spring-poison shower combo!
So, in this way I'm finding Transmute more useful than Mana Regeneration as the multiple attacks on the demon stacks generate more mana than i can use in the first 10 rounds!

[DGDobrev]

I totally agree with that. However, I was talking about a pure caster mage - one who barely gets his BD stack to attack and hammers the enemy with spells. In such case you will kill with spells and that does not generate any mana back.

If you do have a nice stack of BD's, they are great for mopping up weakened enemy units and in such case, Transmutation is really nice. In that particular game I was referring to, I had only 1 available, and he alone wasn't doing much, so I had to compensate with Concentration rather than Transmutation.

[oody]

To quickly recap the huge wall of text I removed earlier:

I believe Glory is a waste of Mind Runes if you can get by without it. It's only powerful very early in the game and Learning will yield much greater results in the long run.

I think Concentration is far better than Transmute for Mages who can't afford the Might runes anyway. Instead, I recommend Mages get Rage Control, Training, Anger, and of course Chaos Magic with their Might Runes.

Edit: You need Might runes to get Higher Magic Prerequisites also, which nearly doubles your medal progress rate early game.

Edit2: The Real power of Concentration lies in extending battles early on, even to round 20, to max your mana so you can go into the next battle with full rage and mana.

[Zechnophobe]

Medal progress rate doesn't equal game win rate. Also, didn't you say you hadn't tried transmute in that wall of text you deleted? (I actually know you did, because I had half replied to you when I noticed you edited it out).

If all you want is medals, sure, concentration, and higher magic are great! But I wouldn't call that 'effective'. It's like the 4 mage stack army is great for boosting the resistance medal, but isn't exactly strong otherwise. My paladin on impossible often spends 125 mana in a 5 round combat.. and only starts with like 35. You just can't do that with concentration.

[sh4dow]

erm... what exactly is map kiting? tried to figure it out but everyone just keeps talking about it like it's something as basic as clicking on the screen to make your character move there