Friday 2009-12-04 Screenshots Update discussion thread

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

There is minimal dots 2x2 pixels in Il-2. They are always the same minmal size doesn't matter which resolution using players as well as they disapearing also on one the same distance with any resolution.

I agree with the above, but I don't think we are saying same thing.

1920 x1200 pixels = 2,304,000 pixels on screen
1024x768 pixels = 786,432 pixels on screen

I agree they are always the same number of pixels and they should disappear at same distance any resolution.

I'm saying it is harder to see 2x2 pixels in an array of 2,304,000 pixels vs 786,432 pixels. I can see 2x2 pixels, if I am looking in the correct place. In a sea of 2,304,000 pixels it is more difficult to track 2x2 pixels, or find quickly as at lower resolution.

Also, in my situation I wear glasses. Maybe, someone with excellent vision can see at either resolution well.

[jermin]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

I agree with the above, but I don't think we are saying same thing.

1920 x1200 pixels = 2,304,000 pixels on screen
1024x768 pixels = 786,432 pixels on screen

I agree they are always the same number of pixels and they should disappear at same distance any resolution.

I'm saying it is harder to see 2x2 pixels in an array of 2,304,000 pixels vs 786,432 pixels. I can see 2x2 pixels, if I am looking in the correct place. In a sea of 2,304,000 pixels it is more difficult to track 2x2 pixels, or find quickly as at lower resolution.

Also, in my situation I wear glasses. Maybe, someone with excellent vision can see at either resolution well.

Yup, Hopefully oleg will address this probelm in BoB.

[ZaltysZ]

Pixel count alone can't be measurement of how hard it would be to see 2x2 dot. Display dot pitch must be taken into account too to be fair. High resolution large screen isn't the same as high resolution small screen - it is way harder to notice dots on the later, due to smaller pixels, despite the same pixel count.

[MD_Wild_Weasel]

I think you'll find gentlemen that regarding arcade settings usually not usually used for training ,but more for fun. For example with the Wonder woman cockpit high deflection shots are no longer a guessing game and evasion from attack aircraft is unlikely. There action is quicker. On the flip side full real is tottally the opposite. BUT more rewarding. Basically it depends on the pilot. I do not believe its a training tool of any kind. Especially as il2 is not just about having good gunnery. As far as seeing how other pilots go about getting kills with an extra veiw. Learn yourself. Most good pilots are the ones able to pick up a book and read basic tactics. There are plenty out there. There should be no short cuts in il2 . Thats what made it such a great game, the fact that it takes dedication to even come close to mastering.

[Insuber]

I believe that the greatness and popularity of Il2 is not due to the difficulty of the FR settings, but to the "scalability" of the difficulty degree, allowing either beginners, or people who cannot dedicate more thant a couple of hours per week, to have a lot of fun with no-cockpit view and simplified handling.

Then, after one's retirement, there will be enough time to learn and enjoy FR and la ot of other stuff.

Bye,
Insuber

[airmalik]

um... where's my Friday fix?

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by airmalik

um... where's my Friday fix?

Hahah beat me to it

[jermin]

Originally Posted by Insuber

I believe that the greatness and popularity of Il2 is not due to the difficulty of the FR settings, but to the "scalability" of the difficulty degree, allowing either beginners, or people who cannot dedicate more thant a couple of hours per week, to have a lot of fun with no-cockpit view and simplified handling.

Then, after one's retirement, there will be enough time to learn and enjoy FR and la ot of other stuff.

Bye,
Insuber

But it seems that nowadays most of the players playing on Hyperlobby are beginners. Some begginers tend to play in the arcade server forever just because they cannot live without wonder woman view or external view. And I'm seeing many players playing in arcade servers at least 4 hours per day!

[nearmiss]

I haven't been online for quite awhile.

What you are saying reminds me of the MSFT ZONE maturity process.

When it got to where all the neophytes and kiddies start popping on for hours at a time it turned into a joke. The zone didn't survive long after that.

Arcade play is definitely an indicator of a younger Xbox type players.

[Ernst]

Originally Posted by jermin

But it seems that nowadays most of the players playing on Hyperlobby are beginners. Some begginers tend to play in the arcade server forever just because they cannot live without wonder woman view or external view. And I'm seeing many players playing in arcade servers at least 4 hours per day!

Play in arcade servers has 3 utilities: Training dogfight manouvering, gunnery to keep your habilities well fit for critical situations in aw, adw and FS (in this servers we avoid dogs at maximun) and satisfy your ego killing noobies