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Old 12-05-2009, 08:25 PM
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Over G is still the best console combat flight simulation by a long margin. It has everything from realism, immersion, longevity, great camera views & saveable replay theatres. EVERY AIRCRAFT has a great cockpit, the single player skirmish mode has multiple options including weapons loadouts for each aircraft so it's quite possible to have great dogfights with cannons only. Work around the average graphics, cheesey music & voiceovers & you end up with a great, complete console experience that doesn't need theatrical music scores etc & doesn't shy away from take off & landings; hell you can even taxi out from the apron & back again in certain modes aswell as being required to come back to base to rearm etc if needed (on harder difficulty settings).
Luckily, the non-mappable controls are great & intelligently thought out, from the easy firing systems, wingman orders, through to the gears, spoilers & tailhook deployment & the virtual cockpit look-around is very smooth. I hear what you say about flightsticks & I agree they're great but the pad design in this game works great.
Also; players will note that not only do all the avionics, MFD's & in-cockpit instruments work, it's quite possible to fly by viewing these instruments aswell, thanks to the great level of detail of the game.

Successfully performing a nerve wracking Carrier circuit in an FA/18 Super Hornet (or similar) with all visual aids off & you'll quickly realise just why this game should have received so much more praise & success than it did.

You even get to unlock the X-35C & it's VSTOL flight dynamics are faithfully created so you perform hover etc. Microsoft Flight Simulator even struggles with that!!!

The best, most complete flight experience on console IMO!!!

Sounds quite good but you can do most of that on a PS2 game called energy airforce. I recomend this game, although its PS2 it was released round the time the PS3 was so it has reasonable graphics. It also has free flight modes etc and multiple aircraft with full working cockpits. The main aircraft is the F-16 but there are more including - off the top of my head - the X-35 (F-35) and the F-22.
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Old 12-05-2009, 08:37 PM
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Sounds quite good but you can do most of that on a PS2 game called energy airforce. I recomend this game, although its PS2 it was released round the time the PS3 was so it has reasonable graphics. It also has free flight modes etc and multiple aircraft with full working cockpits. The main aircraft is the F-16 but there are more including - off the top of my head - the X-35 (F-35) and the F-22.
Well we can't get that game in the US, is it the same as Aero Elite because the graphics lok better?

Aero Elite Combat Academy was released a year earlier. Developed by Sega Published by Sega.


Did a search and saw 505 published Energy Airforce developed by Taito. Who knew!

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Old 12-05-2009, 08:44 PM
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Sounds quite good but you can do most of that on a PS2 game called energy airforce. I recomend this game, although its PS2 it was released round the time the PS3 was so it has reasonable graphics. It also has free flight modes etc and multiple aircraft with full working cockpits. The main aircraft is the F-16 but there are more including - off the top of my head - the X-35 (F-35) and the F-22.
over g is an energy airfoce game lol. the packaging doesnt bear the name but the game is filled with it. most planes numbers are EA-XXX. come to think of it when you select new game the first line you see is "energy airforce was given a new mission"
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:01 PM
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Over G is "realistic"? As I recall one could flip upside down, go get a beer, make a phone call and when you got back your plane would still be there, happily buzzing away until it ran off the map. Not trying to put down anyone for enjoying a game but a flight sim that aint. There is such a thing as gravity, even in a jet fighter. ESPECIALLY in a jet fighter.
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:44 PM
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Over G is "realistic"? As I recall one could flip upside down, go get a beer, make a phone call and when you got back your plane would still be there, happily buzzing away until it ran off the map. Not trying to put down anyone for enjoying a game but a flight sim that aint. There is such a thing as gravity, even in a jet fighter. ESPECIALLY in a jet fighter.
definetly not, maybe on arcade settings that keep you straight but invert and leave it and you'll soon it in the drink/ground...you'll even red out
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:03 PM
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Over G is "realistic"? As I recall one could flip upside down, go get a beer, make a phone call and when you got back your plane would still be there, happily buzzing away until it ran off the map. Not trying to put down anyone for enjoying a game but a flight sim that aint. There is such a thing as gravity, even in a jet fighter. ESPECIALLY in a jet fighter.
Hmm. Sounds as if you were indeed playing this great console SIM on the default arcade settings (and therefore was little surprise you were bored after 3 minutes), because with the copy of the game I have, there was no way you could leave the craft in an inverted state & go get your beer because if you did you would red-out very quickly followed by a quick inverted dive to terra-firma.
And yes; Energy Airforce & Over G are basically the same game; the energy airforce logo is present throughout the games interface & aircraft.

Referring to your 1st post on this topic; 3 minutes to form an opinion on a game that simulates a complex area such as flight (& done so very well with Over G & Energy Airforce) is a very clever gift to have. Not being a huge fan of Birds of Prey, it did take me a good, careful 6 or so hours before I could finally say 'nope, good graphics but little else'

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Old 12-05-2009, 11:46 PM
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Hmm. Sounds as if you were indeed playing this great console SIM on the default arcade settings (and therefore was little surprise you were bored after 3 minutes), because with the copy of the game I have, there was no way you could leave the craft in an inverted state & go get your beer because if you did you would red-out very quickly followed by a quick inverted dive to terra-firma.
And yes; Energy Airforce & Over G are basically the same game; the energy airforce logo is present throughout the games interface & aircraft.

Referring to your 1st post on this topic; 3 minutes to form an opinion on a game that simulates a complex area such as flight (& done so very well with Over G & Energy Airforce) is a very clever gift to have. Not being a huge fan of Birds of Prey, it did take me a good, careful 6 or so hours before I could finally say 'nope, good graphics but little else'
Maybe I missed something, but I spent quite a bit of time with Over G and tried lotsa different settings before I traded it in. It's been a while, but I just don't remember the game having anything to do with flight, more like choose your space age weapons and blast away. It could be that the "flight" aspects of the game were too deeply buried in the window dressing for me to appreciate it. It's too bad, 'cause I really did want to like the game. I'm glad you're having some fun with it though. Different strokes and all that...

After reading Krypyonite's post, it is possible that I'm confusing OverG with AC6. I tried them both, and to be honest I couldn't find much difference and I traded in both. I've tried every flight game that's ever come out for 360, and BoP is the only one I still play. Not that BoP is all that much better, I just prefer it for some reason. Maybe I just like shooting Nazis.

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Old 12-06-2009, 12:20 AM
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Maybe I missed something, but I spent quite a bit of time with Over G and tried lotsa different settings before I traded it in. It's been a while, but I just don't remember the game having anything to do with flight, more like choose your space age weapons and blast away. It could be that the "flight" aspects of the game were too deeply buried in the window dressing for me to appreciate it. It's too bad, 'cause I really did want to like the game. I'm glad you're having some fun with it though. Different strokes and all that...

After reading Krypyonite's post, it is possible that I'm confusing OverG with AC6. I tried them both, and to be honest I couldn't find much difference and I traded in both. I've tried every flight game that's ever come out for 360, and BoP is the only one I still play. Not that BoP is all that much better, I just prefer it for some reason. Maybe I just like shooting Nazis.
They are both very different. OverG is a sim for consoles AC6 is very arcadey.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:27 AM
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Over-G control setup is: left analogue - elevators/ ailerons; left/right triggers - rudders; right analogue - free look; shoulder buttons - throttle. Other buttons switch armament types, HUD modes, viewpoint and fire missiles/guns. The D-Pad features change from a/c to a/c but generally include landing gear + flaps (no separate control of these), as well as a/c-specific functions such as arrestor hooks/stealth mode/AoA limiter etc. I know I'm forgetting some things but these are the basics.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:29 AM
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They are both very different. OverG is a sim for consoles AC6 is very arcadey.
I thought they were both very arcadey. I musta missed somethin'
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