Friday 2009-12-04 Screenshots Update discussion thread

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

We all want great looking water, especially when we are down low.

I've seen alot of water rendered from different games and sims. My shipbard experience at sea, the water is rarely as smooth.

Sure the water is nice like this on clalm days inside bays and harbors, but at sea the waves and wave action is turbulent and aggitated.

The weather is a determining factor of course. Sure would be a plus if weather dictated wave action and sea visuals.

Anyway, I can go with the water however it's presented... since I'm not in the water or that near the surface most of the time. If I were looking out a port hole I'd think different.

Oleg has stated that the sea conditions are tied to the weather engine in game. There are a couple of other shots released where you can see white caps on the water. So maybe we, who spend much time at sea might even approve of them.

[nearmiss]

Looking back through some older updates I found the half transparent instruments that can be applied in HUD views. I've asked many times, but why not just have half transparent cockpits and do away with HUD Views. Also, have you ever thought to do half transparent frame rails for cockpit views with full view cockpit panels. This way visuals would be improved significantly, but pilot still could not see through the aircraft. Kind of an offset for lack of peripheral vision. I've always felt like I was in box in many cockpit views. The ability to for users to choose to do half transparent cockpit for HUD views or half transparent cockpit frame rails would do it. Customizable indicators for no cockpit view. They are half transparent, resizable, and possible to put at any place of the screen. With the release of BoB there will be 3 types of standard indicator sets for no cockpit view – customizable indicators for German, British and Italian side. http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/grab0001.jpg http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/grab0002.jpg http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/grab0004.jpg

[CRO_Adriatic]

Thx for update, kokpit and pilots looks great!

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

Looking back through some older updates I found the half transparent instruments that can be applied in HUD views. I've asked many times, but why not just have half transparent cockpits and do away with HUD Views. Also, have you ever thought to do half transparent frame rails for cockpit views with full view cockpit panels. This way visuals would be improved significantly, but pilot still could not see through the aircraft. Kind of an offset for lack of peripheral vision. I've always felt like I was in box in many cockpit views. The ability to for users to choose to do half transparent cockpit for HUD views or half transparent cockpit frame rails would do it. Customizable indicators for no cockpit view. They are half transparent, resizable, and possible to put at any place of the screen. With the release of BoB there will be 3 types of standard indicator sets for no cockpit view – customizable indicators for German, British and Italian side. http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/grab0001.jpg http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/grab0002.jpg http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/grab0004.jpg

I like the semi transparent instruments, they would be great ! Good point nearmiss.

Insuber

[MD_Wild_Weasel]

Originally Posted by Insuber

I like the semi transparent instruments, they would be great ! Good point nearmiss.

Insuber

personaly i dont like any of the "wonder woman cockpits". I would say if you want these views then switch to the ps3 and play the arcade version of il2"birds of prey" (is that what its called?)

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by MD_Wild_Weasel

personaly i dont like any of the "wonder woman cockpits". I would say if you want these views then switch to the ps3 and play the arcade version of il2"birds of prey" (is that what its called?)

We make hard core sim in terms of control and FM, however we need to invite also these, who never played sims and for them using just cockpit gauges without external views and simplified control would be very hard. Such settting are controlable from a server, so I don't see any problem that we have everything in one. Say almost everything neccessary for the novices in fligth sims.

The difference to arcade game is that with our sim you may learn from arcade to realistic step by step, and these settings from arcade to realistic are not "arcadeish ultrarealistic settings"

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by MD_Wild_Weasel

personaly i dont like any of the "wonder woman cockpits". I would say if you want these views then switch to the ps3 and play the arcade version of il2"birds of prey" (is that what its called?)

Thank you for your nice and constructive answer, we really needed open minded and tolerant people in this forum.

Have a nice day,
Insuber

[MD_Wild_Weasel]

Sorry my post wasnt meant to offend. To me , and if you read my post carefully it did say"personal opinion" that it seems such a waste of fantastic quality cockpits.

I think maybe a chill pill may be required.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Still, Weasel, the thing is: you'll still be able to fly without "Wonder Woman view".

People aren't really thinking of business here: the more options, the better (for the game and for sales). It was the same on that dicussion about pilot in-cockpit (I know it won't happen, but it can be used to demonstrate the ideology): if you can make two options to please two different groups, do it. Just because it doesn't please YOU it doesn't mean that the idea is stupid and useless. Someone will use it (otherwise they wouldn't be requesting and discussing the subject).