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Old 11-25-2009, 08:23 PM
DGDobrev DGDobrev is offline
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Well, no-loss victiories are indeed hard to do. For example, just now I did the bounty quest to free the dwarven king, planning that I'll end up just short of level 40. Since I'm using elenhel, I was aware that as soon as he hits lvl 40, he will want to leave with all the items that are equipped on him. Obviously, I can't let that happen and have to fight him.

However, this is not what happened. I hit 40 after killing fangol and his swarm of troops and elenhel talked to me right after the battle, while I was inside the castle (thus no save yet, since the game can't get to that!) and I had to fight his 100 Necros, 300 druids, 200 Evil Beholders, 187 Archmagi and some Polar bears in a badly weaked state, with the stupid pain skull equipped (meaning additional -50% mana!). Well, that doesn't sound like much - Paladins + Target + Armor of God generally solves it. However, he happens to cast max level geyser and has 40 intellect and around 200 mana. Suffice it to say I was losing 5 paladins, 23 gorguanas, 15 Demonologists and 15 archmagi in every cast. The only thing that saved this battle was target on the paladins and phantoms like crazy.

In the end, no-losses from both of the fights. I even managed to sacrifice for some extra gorguanas and popped up all the chests. Phew.
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Old 11-25-2009, 09:04 PM
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I have no phantom yet ...
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Old 11-25-2009, 09:11 PM
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Ouch. Try every single place, because the spell is indeed invaluable. A lot of digging will help too - I found it on least 6 separate times (including the one in verona tavern).
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Old 11-25-2009, 09:17 PM
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I saw everyhting on debir,rusty,bolo,scarlet,verona,montero,namelss,sh attera ... also have sneak to dersu tekron .... on umkas and elon didnt sneaked all .. yet reha and uzala i dont have maps ... currently i am in abandodned mines ... reminds me hell of haas laby
anyone made map for this? :p
on mentero ther only dragon lair and ironfist left .. but both damn hard

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Old 11-25-2009, 09:51 PM
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I hear you, Elwin. I've got Phantom myself but I haven't started using it yet. I am going to take DGD's advice and put some work into the Summoning ability to counteract low Intellect (currently, at level 2, Phantom is only doing 31%) but Mind runes are a big problem. I think I'm going to have to do the rune exchange in Montero.

In my game I still can't find Target, which I could really use, or Resurrection or Time Back. I used Time Back a lot in my last game and I think it's the best way of 'rolling back' damage (although very expensive in mana). I used Horsemen in my last game for this reason, as they are both strong in terms of hp and very fast.

I got the Shettera map quite easily in Montero and, as someone said in one of these threads, Shettera is really good for picking up flags/crystals. There's even one quest you can do without fighting. But what I really want is that damn Target spell! I have the Tekron map but I don't want to run into that problem someone had where they were always running into one of the bosses when they arrived.

I think I am up to about 110 fights without loss and it's day 11. So I'm doing this slower than travelingoz, for sure. But I won't care if I get there in the end!
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:13 PM
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I think the chance of landing on a pirate ship when traveling to Tekron must be really small though, i only heard of one other person besides me having this happen. But ye trust me, it's not pretty.
Tekron is well worth it, you can get blood of the goddess if you cba to get it for jimmy and have an insane leadership boost and you can do some easy quest like the soap and submarine, also i managed to get a map to Shet I think even, down in the canal which was quite a nice suprise,
Shet is indeed a very easy place for sneaking aswell, and I think there's at least two doable quests there aswell, the arcitect and the escaped imp ( although im not sure how smart it is to turn him back in )
Also really high level spell/items/units for sale there.
I wish the kiting of chart guards didnt felt so cheesy though but it seems like the only way to go if you go fully for no-losses.
Nice to read you guys are doing well though, keep it up!

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Old 11-25-2009, 11:08 PM
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Found phantom on Urzala !! yet te tmeback needed ;p
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