I-153: cheap or not?

[InfiniteStates]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

Actually.. both turn radius and rate of turn have nothing to do with lift, but a lot with speed.
Low speed = Low turn radius, and high rate of turn. The extra lift provided by the bi-wings only means it can maintain a way lower airspeed, thus a lower turn radius and high rate of turn.

I'm sorry, but that's not true. How well can you turn when your elevators have been shot out?

Lift is only lift when you are flying with level wing tips. As soon as you roll your plane onto it's side, that lift then becomes turn. Which is why you lose altitude if your wings are exactly perpendicular to the ground.

Lift and turn are relative to the ground, not the plane. But the force resulting from the shape of the wing is relative to the orientation of the plane. So as you change the plane's orientation, you alter the effect of the wing relative to the Earth. What you say would be true if you use the rudder to turn. But you don't. You roll the plane onto it's side then use the elevator to turn.

Again, I'm not going to go into the physics of a wing because you can google it if you don't already know, but the upward force on a wing (i.e. lift on a level plane) is a function of it's forward speed (and curvature of the top surface).

[IamKFAM]

...and angle of attack...

[dkwookie]

The top and bottom of this is an 153 in a team battle match is like playing a game of football and someones dog runs on the pitch biting the ball. Its anoying as f**k
Yeah you can continue playing and try to ignore it but sooner or later you will get an urge to kick it into next week

[haitch40]

ok the amount you can turn a plane depends on how much pressure is being generated by the elivators the more pressure they create without stalling the tighter the turn

[InfiniteStates]

Originally Posted by dkwookie

The top and bottom of this is an 153 in a team battle match is like playing a game of football and someones dog runs on the pitch biting the ball. Its anoying as f**k
Yeah you can continue playing and try to ignore it but sooner or later you will get an urge to kick it into next week

PMSL awesome...

I could have saved myself a metric-fk tonne of typing if it had occured to me to sum it up so eloquently and succinctly. WP Don't forget that the dog will also probably end up scoring the most goals too lol.


EDIT: probably a good job we moved this out of shadowcorp's thread eh? Else he'd be having kittens

[dkwookie]

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates

Don't forget that the dog will also probably end up scoring the most goals too lol.

Yeah it would be racking them up like Pele. Jack Russel maps quite well to the 153

Interesting the comments on the cannon. I mentioned this earlier and it seemed to me like a bug at times. The cannon hit the sweet spot once you get in the groove with that plane. It seems to take out the engine with a short burst first time.

Now MW2 has leeched most players I dont see many people use this plane these days

[Shadowcorp]

many of the former "Ace" i153 pilots from arcade have dissappeared or even started using different planes, perhaps this forum has had some sort of effect.

[haitch40]

the i153 isnt cheap i dont think
anyway the whole argument on why its so agile ITS NOT JUST SPEED take the hurri and the spit ix the spit ix out turns the hurri and the hurri is slower
i rest my case (forever i mean i said last time i wasnt coming back to this)

also it does have cannons but the most firepower award i think goes to the bf109 g6 or the spit xvi or the spit ix because of its acuracy