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Old 11-18-2009, 05:37 PM
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This game is easy ... maybe a bit different than HOMM since u have to explore much before any fighting ... Its a challange only on begginig on impossble difficulty but only at begging, in half of the game its also easy ;p

There was many players like you bbefore nagging its too hard ... I was never a good HOMM player, i thought that only good spells are Direct damge and i had no problem with finishing mage on normal at first run ... And my strategy was .. hm nuke everythig down? : D

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Old 11-18-2009, 06:02 PM
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Well, in that case, you are doing something wrong indeed. First of all, why do you need all those peasants? Bowmen are an excellect substitution for them, and they can both burn and slow. The next unit you need is Inquisitors and/or archmagi - you can find some in Shivarius' Tower and the Mage tower in Velarion forest, unless you're really unlucky and got a game without them.

Other useful units are the royal thorns or alchemists - both can spawn in the Marshan Swamp. Also, try to lure the strong unit (usually mages) in front of the horsemen camp in Greenworth away, then go around them, move back in and buy some horsemen or knights (at least one of those is guaranteed to spawn there) and you will be just fine, as they are one the best tanks there is, and for such low level, they alone can make a difference. Another thing you can try is the Dragon's tooth tavern in Arlania - some good units can spawn there as well.

You shoud also reconsider your in-game tactics. If you have a bishop on F1, you don't necessarily put it on A6 straight away, do you? For that matter, if you have a good long-range unit (like inquisitors or bowmen) it doesn't mean you should move it each turn. If you have a good rook on a free line, you should keep it there - for that matter, if you have a good tank that can rule the middle of the battlefield, you should keep him there, as the AI is stupid and usually goes for the units that it can reach. For example, do not be surprised if the AI goes for your archers - this means you simply allowed it to reach them.

Try a party of:

Horsemen, Inquisitors, Bowmen, Priests, Archmagi. If you can't find horsemen, the ancient bears will do.

This party usually rocks the early game, because Horsemen have high initiative and you can move them in the middle of the battlefield straight away. Inquisitors can resurrect any of the lost units, priests can heal the horsemen, the Archmagi can cast magic shield on the horsemen so that they take only 50% damage and use the bowmen to slow/burn anything that is threatening your rear guard.

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Old 11-18-2009, 06:10 PM
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also grihons and royal snakes are awesome early game units, and with frog feanora snakes do wonders even in late game
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Old 11-18-2009, 07:24 PM
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Well, in that case, you are doing something wrong indeed. First of all, why do you need all those peasants? Bowmen are an excellect substitution for them, and they can both burn and slow. The next unit you need is Inquisitors and/or archmagi - you can find some in Shivarius' Tower and the Mage tower in Velarion forest, unless you're really unlucky and got a game without them.

Other useful units are the royal thorns or alchemists - both can spawn in the Marshan Swamp. Also, try to lure the strong unit (usually mages) in front of the horsemen camp in Greenworth away, then go around them, move back in and buy some horsemen or knights (at least one of those is guaranteed to spawn there) and you will be just fine, as they are one the best tanks there is, and for such low level, they alone can make a difference. Another thing you can try is the Dragon's tooth tavern in Arlania - some good units can spawn there as well.

You shoud also reconsider your in-game tactics. If you have a bishop on F1, you don't necessarily put it on A6 straight away, do you? For that matter, if you have a good long-range unit (like inquisitors or bowmen) it doesn't mean you should move it each turn. If you have a good rook on a free line, you should keep it there - for that matter, if you have a good tank that can rule the middle of the battlefield, you should keep him there, as the AI is stupid and usually goes for the units that it can reach. For example, do not be surprised if the AI goes for your archers - this means you simply allowed it to reach them.

Try a party of:

Horsemen, Inquisitors, Bowmen, Priests, Archmagi. If you can't find horsemen, the ancient bears will do.

This party usually rocks the early game, because Horsemen have high initiative and you can move them in the middle of the battlefield straight away. Inquisitors can resurrect any of the lost units, priests can heal the horsemen, the Archmagi can cast magic shield on the horsemen so that they take only 50% damage and use the bowmen to slow/burn anything that is threatening your rear guard.
In fact, i did all that u say in that tip (except horsemen, i never can get em). Yes, i used fire arrows to break down ranged like thorns, for example and i always move the tanks making a defensive line). I tried ancient bears-bowmen-archmages-priest. The problem is that i cant do anything with only 31 bowmen (the maximum i can get with my leadership) or 8 archmages or 11 ancient bears. They work good against weak-strong parties, but higher than that, i need more units. And i cant get more cuz i cant get more leadership. So the thing is, or i start again (something that should not be needed, but as i notice, u need to do the things perfect since beginning, something that is stupid in a videogame) or i cant do anything. And the funny thing is, i start playing with a paladin class, and i changed it to mage cuz the game was too hard.. LOL surprise.
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Old 11-18-2009, 07:45 PM
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In that case, I can only conclude that your own tactics are at fault. With what I gave you, I can beat up impossible with a mage and have a fairly challenging game. But normal... it's really easy.

The last tip I can give you is to find good spots where you can do the fight at your advantage. Another thing you can do is to have Zerock and Glot available for these battles. The two spirits of rage will be very useful for some extra damage or diversion.
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Old 11-18-2009, 07:51 PM
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This game is easy ... maybe a bit different than HOMM since u have to explore much before any fighting ... Its a challange only on begginig on impossble difficulty but only at begging, in half of the game its also easy ;p

There was many players like you bbefore nagging its too hard ... I was never a good HOMM player, i thought that only good spells are Direct damge and i had no problem with finishing mage on normal at first run ... And my strategy was .. hm nuke everythig down? : D
This game easy? we should be playing different games. HOMM was a hard saga , but i managed to complete all of em. King's Bounty is harder than HOMM (impossible on comparison), because u cant re-troop on the castles once they are depleted. That is a stupid feature, cuz the game turns in only 1 way to move on: kill em all and pick all the items before the troops on huts and castles are depleted or u are screwed. Thats insane. HOMM had a lot of more neutral troops for recruiting, respawn on castles, easily unit upgrade, but yes, the parties are static, but better static parties and possibilty of re-cruit on castles that dinamic parties and non-possibility of re-cruit on castles.
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Old 11-18-2009, 07:57 PM
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Well, the best thing you can do is to try and win as many battles without losses.

Another thing you can do:

Start a new game. Do the main quest line till you get the spirits of rage box. Doing the missing skull quest in the castle in Velarion forest is also advisable. Then scout the adjacent areas for leadership flags, chests, etc. With this at hand, the starting fights will be much easier.

And of course, learn to kite the archmagi away from the camp. having a strong tanking unit is a blessing.
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Old 11-18-2009, 08:30 PM
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This game easy? we should be playing different games. HOMM was a hard saga , but i managed to complete all of em. King's Bounty is harder than HOMM (impossible on comparison), because u cant re-troop on the castles once they are depleted. That is a stupid feature, cuz the game turns in only 1 way to move on: kill em all and pick all the items before the troops on huts and castles are depleted or u are screwed. Thats insane. HOMM had a lot of more neutral troops for recruiting, respawn on castles, easily unit upgrade, but yes, the parties are static, but better static parties and possibilty of re-cruit on castles that dinamic parties and non-possibility of re-cruit on castles.

Nope we play the same game, and many players already stated that for veteran homm players this game is way too easy so developers rised difficulty of the game in expansion. If u cant deal with this game means you are screwing something badly. The thing that units are limited is not really a problem, especially if u have sacrifice spell :p

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Old 11-19-2009, 08:39 AM
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Nope we play the same game, and many players already stated that for veteran homm players this game is way too easy so developers rised difficulty of the game in expansion. If u cant deal with this game means you are screwing something badly. The thing that units are limited is not really a problem, especially if u have sacrifice spell :p

Then, many players just lied. And if u havent play HOMM, u cant say its harder and u have no arguments. I show u an example from 1 to 10, 1 = the most easy, 10 = almost impossible. I give a 5 to HOMM and 8 to King's Bounty. I can deal with the game, the problem is that i dont like games that have only 1 way to be played or u are screwed. Maybe u dont understand wat i mean. I liked HOMM cuz even if the enemy is harder, u can wait and recruit troops without hurry, and the game is a lot more funny and playable, and u can think strategies without hurry, recruitin the troops u want and the troops with better strategy for your course of action (u cant do that on KB cuz troops doesnt respawn). And i suposse the sacrifice spell can only be adquire on higher levels, so.. wats the point? I suposse is easier for people to say im doing something wrong instead of saying the truth (that the game is harder than usual).
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:58 AM
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I do play homm since like year 1996 ... but rarely on highest difficulty. There is no hurry in KB either. It just requires being more curious since some units are limited ( not all , if u do some quest, some units are in unlimiited numbers so thats not problem at all ..) IN both games there are some rules if which you dont follow you will fail as well. KB has also many strategies possible i saw realy many of them from various players, but some basisc like early exploring before fight are just basics of this tittle like getting mines in homm.. the game was in fact realesed before HOMM I

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