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Old 11-11-2009, 03:36 PM
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MW2 has been out for 36 hours. In that time, IW and Activision have created and released 2 patches for the game.....following feedback from the forums.

So, let's not hear any more nonsense that it takes Sony weeks to test and release patches - clearly it doesn't. It's plain (ignore the pun) incompetance from either 505 Games or the dev.

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Old 11-11-2009, 03:47 PM
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MW2 has been out for 36 hours. In that time, IW and Activision have created and released 2 patches for the game.....following feedback from the forums.

So, let's not hear any more nonsense that it takes Sony weeks to test and release patches - clearly it doesn't. It's plain (ignore the pun) incompetance from either 505 Games or the dev.

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Not to belittle IL-2, but MW2 is a different beast. Not really fair to compare the too. It makes sense that MW2 will get special attention.
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Old 11-11-2009, 04:49 PM
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MW2 has been out for 36 hours. In that time, IW and Activision have created and released 2 patches for the game.....following feedback from the forums.

So, let's not hear any more nonsense that it takes Sony weeks to test and release patches - clearly it doesn't. It's plain (ignore the pun) incompetance from either 505 Games or the dev.

Crazy
And look what all the speeding up did . The only reason why 1.02 was needed was because 1.01 messed up the trophies, and the only reason a 1.03 is needed is because 1.02 messed up connectivity.
And, as draux mentioned, the companies are not comparable.
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Old 11-11-2009, 04:57 PM
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He's not talking about the companies that published the games, he is talking about how long these patches were at sony before they recieved the O.K. I know Infinity is going to rec pref from sony, but there has to be more going on w/ BOP for it to be taking this long.
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:01 PM
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He's not talking about the companies that published the games, he is talking about how long these patches were at sony before they recieved the O.K. I know Infinity is going to rec pref from sony, but there has to be more going on w/ BOP for it to be taking this long.
Looking at what the patches of MW2 do, they don't require as much testing. This obviously doesn't explain the delay on IL2's, but it could explain why it went so fast: preferred companies + small patch = very fast testing.
The problem with IL2 is that the publishers have something to do with the delay, in some way no one can explain..
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:33 PM
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Exactly, I'm pretty sure we are on the same page. My concerns aren't just for the patch alone, they are for the future of any type of serious flight simming on consoles. If these guys dont come through I cant see any other pubs taking a chance on a niche game such as BOP.

It isn't a bad game, but the lack of german cockpits (for some reason that is the only way I can truly enjoy flight simming) and any real challenge in single player is holding it just short of what it could be.

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Old 11-11-2009, 06:59 PM
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Looking at what the patches of MW2 do, they don't require as much testing.
I pray to god that QA departements don't think the same, because this is quite wrong. If any aspect of the code changes you need to test the entire thing again. There's a multitude of reasons for why a code change to do with one aspect can cause problems in totally seemingly unrelated areas.

I think the CoD patches are fast tracked because Activision have a lot of eggs in the CoD basket and a lot of financial clout. They need CoD to succeed, especially after their CEO's flagrant disregard for his customers. Also, Sony has to accept partial responsibility for green lighting such an obviously buggy patch in the first place.

BoP has never been as broken as CoD is right now.
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:33 PM
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I pray to god that QA departements don't think the same, because this is quite wrong. If any aspect of the code changes you need to test the entire thing again. There's a multitude of reasons for why a code change to do with one aspect can cause problems in totally seemingly unrelated areas.

I think the CoD patches are fast tracked because Activision have a lot of eggs in the CoD basket and a lot of financial clout. They need CoD to succeed, especially after their CEO's flagrant disregard for his customers. Also, Sony has to accept partial responsibility for green lighting such an obviously buggy patch in the first place.

BoP has never been as broken as CoD is right now.
What is buggy about COD? MW2?

I've played mostly all the way through and they only thing I have seen is a framerate drop (once that I noticed) during a very heavy gun fight.
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:39 PM
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What is buggy about COD? MW2?

I've played mostly all the way through and they only thing I have seen is a framerate drop (once that I noticed) during a very heavy gun fight.
You mean just SP? From what I've heard there's quite a few problems with the MP.
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:27 PM
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What is buggy about COD? MW2?

I've played mostly all the way through and they only thing I have seen is a framerate drop (once that I noticed) during a very heavy gun fight.
Yeah, but if you installed patch 1.01 you probably didn't notice many trophies popping up...? And if you installed 1.02, you'll not be able to get online (so I hear - I'm not installing any of the patches until forums indicate they don't break something).

And just to reinforce my point that everything needs testing whether it was related to the fix or not:

MW2 v1.01 was to add the option to skip the Airport Massacre, and broke trophy support...

MW2 v1.02 was to fix the trophy support, and broke online connectivity...

MW2 v1.03 will be to fix connectivity. Wonder what it will break...?
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