what the hell happened while I was away!?!

[xX-SiLeNcE-Xx]

Most are just fed up waiting for a patch that may never come out...

[dazz1971]

Originally Posted by xX-SiLeNCE-Xx

Most are just fed up waiting for a patch that may never come out...

i dont think it will come out i think its been abandoned
look at it this way
ofdr came out way after bop and look at the chaos on there forums over the bugs that game had anybody would think codemasters had raped and killed you grandmother!!!!
but guess what they said a patch was on its way last week and today they released a post saying its been passed by sony and microsoft and will be avalible in the next few days
they actually cared about the fact that the game was broken in parts and customers were upset about it so they got things moving and got the patch out before too much damage was done

now why cant 505games do that the devs made the patch for them with there own money so it hasnt cost 505 a dime to make and yet nothing no statments they dont answer emails nada nill nothing
doesnt look good does it ???

[dazz1971]

oh and matt i got ace combat 6 and there are loads of games on there still mate ive never failed to get into a match within minutes buddy looks like that is gonna be the only flight sim option for 360 users only thing i dont like about ace 6 is the 86 missiles and unlimeted guns etc kinda spoils it abit but still a great game to get into and most of the action ive had online has been up close and personal no shooting at black specs from 20 miles away

[flynlion]

Originally Posted by dazz1971

oh and matt i got ace combat 6 and there are loads of games on there still mate ive never failed to get into a match within minutes buddy looks like that is gonna be the only flight sim option for 360 users

Ace Combat as NOT a flight sim, not by any stretch. BoP isn't really a flight sim either but at least it is an attempt, albeit a flawed one.

[Draupnir2]

Originally Posted by flynlion

Ace Combat as NOT a flight sim, not by any stretch. BoP isn't really a flight sim either but at least it is an attempt, albeit a flawed one.

I totally agree. I sold AC6 after a few weeks. It doesnt even come close to BoP.

[dazz1971]

that maybe true but at least it works and you can find games to join online unlike bop where i could sit around for hours to maybe find 2/3 games have a very limited choice of planes as most of them dont fly like they should


BOP = long tedious hours trying to find a game but when you do its very good fun

ACE6 = instant fun online loads of planes to choose as they all work correct

i wasnt bashing bop and trying to big up ace6 i was simply answering mattd question regarding ace6

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by dazz1971

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ACE6 = instant fun online loads of planes to choose as they all work correct
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Have you actually done research on the planes in AC6? I'm guessing that a lot of it won't work out to be correct. I've tried the online multiplayer, but it's just like BoP Arcade: you won't stall, you can turn as sharply as you want, and it's obvious to see where everybody is.
For me AC6 online is rubbish, although I like the SP (inverse of what I normally like ).

[Doktorwzzerd]

Originally Posted by flynlion

Ace Combat as NOT a flight sim, not by any stretch. BoP isn't really a flight sim either but at least it is an attempt, albeit a flawed one.

Really, you don't think the sim mode of BoP is truly a Sim? It seems pretty simmy to me. What makes it not a sim to you?

[Ancient Seraph]

Kind of hard to define 'real sim'. For recreational use BoP is sim enough for me, and I do believe it's in the sim category. Of course it can't be compared to a FNPT II sim, like some people want it to be.

[flynlion]

Originally Posted by Doktorwzzerd

Really, you don't think the sim mode of BoP is truly a Sim? It seems pretty simmy to me. What makes it not a sim to you?

Hi Doc
A flight sim is a tool designed to train pilots in correct procedures by acurately "simulating" aircraft performance and handling characteristics. BoP, while it is lotsa fun, in no way replicates an actual aircraft. Take spin recovery, for example. In most aircraft, particularly a high powered prop driven one, the 2 steps in spin recovery are 1) power to idle and 2) opposite rudder. In many cases the plane simply flies itself out once power is reduced. BoP probably requires a different technique because the rudder and throttle are so difficult to employ seperately in the game, so it is understandable. Just don't try the BoP technique in a real plane (ouch!) LoL. But why are so many of the flight models so messed up? Why does the Spitfire try to snap roll every time you pull any G, when anyone who ever flew the real thing claimed that it "had no vices" ? Why does the FW190 Butcher Bird fly like a piece of bird crap? Please understand that I am NOT trying to bash the game, it is in fact one of my favorites. I just think that a true "Flight Sim" should be closer to the real thing. BoP is a toy, and that's fine 'cause we like toys. BoP is in fact a lot more fun than most "simulators" that I've dealt with in the past LoL