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King's Bounty: The Legend Real-time RPG with turn-based battles. Move through the fantasy world of fearless knights, evil mages and beautiful princesses.

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Old 10-30-2009, 12:00 AM
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I have never had any interest in finishing this game in 7 days (gametime), nor have I wanted to take 50+ turns to finish each fight.
It might be 7 days gametime but that would mean hours and hours of gameplay surely.
Then there's all this no-army-suicide trick BS..what sort of sick mind would even bother thinking/doing that lol That's not what the game devs had in mind when they created the game lol
I love this game, and the people that created will forever have a place in my cyber heart.
I get the impression that there's people "pleasuring themselves" at how they got such ridiculous scores, by ridiculous means and methods.
I'm a a big fan of racing games and other genres of games, especially rpg's though.
So when I read about stuff like "I completed the game in 7 days, on impossible with no losses" it makes me feel kind of sad for the gamedevs really as your lovely creation has been abused by some fans so horribly lol

We can only imagine what sort of a "life" those people have...
Kings Bounty Hunter, I believe we have erred in assuming you are an adult, and we have wasted our time talking to you about big adult ideas like "to each his own" and "playing for fun".

I say this now since I wanted to understand you more and where you are coming from, so I did a little research and here's what I found:

Here's a thread from you titled "Am I missing something? can some of the braggers on here be that good?" posted close to a year ago on 11-16-2008 which shows how clueless you are to the tactics needed to achieve a high score on impossible without casualties:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=5365

And here's a thread from you titled "Giants ruin no losses impossible campaign" posted quite recently on 10-09-2009 showcasing your failed attempt on a no-casualty campaign on impossible:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=10448

And to think I thought highly of you and accorded you with respect, being a "senior member" and all.

Little boy, all the "lol" in your post cannot hide the true pain that you are experiencing. It's been a year already, let KBTL go...

*** update ***

It seems I have erred again, as I found more details about you in your most recent post titled "Are there any plans to develop the 'Farmir' characters storyline?" this past 10-28-2009:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=10781

So you are a musician, which means the likelihood that you are just a little boy is quite remote.

First of all, regarding your post, I believe Farmir is the son of the ghost Gostrim and not Attah the dragon, so his lineage might not be half-dragon as you've noted in your post.

Going back to the issue at hand, I believe that deep down you really want to try your hand at achieving what the others have achieved. You were definitely curious about how it was done a year ago, and have even recently attempted a no-casualties game. I'm sure you have read all the suggestions and tactics in this forum, having been active here for so long a time. So my suggestion is to just be open-minded and try out the tactics given by the others. So stop showcasing yourself as being "above" such tactics and give them a go in your game. If you tried it and really didn't find the tactic to your liking, then don't do it and accept that you MIGHT be hindered by not using the said tactic.

Go on and do your thing, but don't rant on the tactics employed by others. I myself disdained the use of the invisible single unit green dragon/demoness/ancient vampire tactic, accepted that I would be handicapped by not using it in some tough fights, and pushed through and completed the game always using 5 units in every battle since I believed this is "what the developers had in mind". So go ahead and do your thing, but if you hit a wall be open-minded enough to consider the tactics suggested by other people.

And stop ranting on how other people play the game; no one is ranting on how you play, but people do take offense to how you converse at times.

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Old 10-30-2009, 09:55 PM
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And the winner is loreangelicus.

Just like the original KB and every Heroes game that followed, the aim of the game was to win in the quickest time possible to get the highest score possible. I fail to see what the difference is.

KBH, do you really think that the people at Katuri are sitting there tearing up because some very talented gamers learnt their game so indepth that they achieved scores they probably never thought possible? Personally I think they'd be very happy and they have probably learnt new ways to play themselves.

Just because you have no interest in doing it and more importantly, lack the ability to do it, there is no need to belittle the players who want to do it, enjoy doing it and can do it. Harden up.
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Old 10-31-2009, 02:02 PM
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loreangelicus, you are giving me a laugh reading back over those old threads. Cheers for that. KBH was basically complaining from day 1 about how people were apparently cheating because they were winning on Impossible easily/quickly. There was a time when I didn't think anyone would beat the 20 day mark on Impossible, but that was proven to be wrong. Live and learn.

BTW, Calinda has beaten Armored Princess (in Russian) in ten days on Impossible in his first run through:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...?t=7728&page=2

How d'ya like that, KBH?
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:19 PM
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loreangelicus, you are giving me a laugh reading back over those old threads. Cheers for that. KBH was basically complaining from day 1 about how people were apparently cheating because they were winning on Impossible easily/quickly. There was a time when I didn't think anyone would beat the 20 day mark on Impossible, but that was proven to be wrong. Live and learn.

BTW, Calinda has beaten Armored Princess (in Russian) in ten days on Impossible in his first run through:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...?t=7728&page=2

How d'ya like that, KBH?
The funny thing is that was my initial reaction as well; how could these guys do such feats without mods or cheats? But then I just accepted it as a challenge and tried it out myself.

Man, AP is taking so long, I actually though about doing a 5 days game/102 quests (according to spare time computations, it is very possible, but you have to do some quests AFTER killing Haas), but decided against it for now since AP is coming soon and KBH might throw a fit again.

Wow, for AP the paladin unit type seems to be the shoo-in for any army build... they've upped the staying power of level 5 units as well, giving them a second look, especially black dragons and archdemons who now have some of the highest life-per-leadership ratios.
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:18 PM
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I can't help but agree with that assessment. Paladins are just way too important, cost-effective, and useful for pretty much any party. Besides, if you team them up with other units properly, they will get you through any battle. For example, I love using Paladins + Knights. Paladins have Physical + Magic resistance while the Knights have Physical + Fire resistance. This way you get some nice flexibility for most of the battles. Enemies do physical or physical + magic? Use paladins + reserve ranged stack. Enemies do fire damage? Use Knights + Paladins.

The army that they don't fit in is the pure undead army, pure demon army, or an army of level 5 units. Paladins can only resurrect anything that is lvl 1-4, but that's barely a problem, since there are tons of great lvl 1-4 units

EDIT: Oh, of course. Plants and mech units too

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Old 11-01-2009, 12:12 AM
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The funny thing is that was my initial reaction as well; how could these guys do such feats without mods or cheats? But then I just accepted it as a challenge and tried it out myself.

Man, AP is taking so long, I actually though about doing a 5 days game/102 quests (according to spare time computations, it is very possible, but you have to do some quests AFTER killing Haas), but decided against it for now since AP is coming soon and KBH might throw a fit again.

Wow, for AP the paladin unit type seems to be the shoo-in for any army build... they've upped the staying power of level 5 units as well, giving them a second look, especially black dragons and archdemons who now have some of the highest life-per-leadership ratios.
How can you do quests after beating Haas (i.e Cruel Haas)? When you get back to Greenwort, you can't leave the castle courtyard, i.e. you are blocked by a unit. So I don't think this will work. (Damn, 6 days isn't fast enough for you people? )
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:28 AM
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How can you do quests after beating Haas (i.e Cruel Haas)? When you get back to Greenwort, you can't leave the castle courtyard, i.e. you are blocked by a unit. So I don't think this will work. (Damn, 6 days isn't fast enough for you people? )
Reloaded my last save from my previous run, you are correct, a unit does block the bridge preventing further adventuring after this point.

It is still possible, but more careful time management is needed. Non-quest enemies could also be skipped since I ended with 1,056,007 experience which is a good buffer away from the required 875,000(?) to achieve level 30. Skipping enemies goes against my completist nature though...

I'm just actually curious if it is possible since 5 days/102 quests gives a score of 1,747 which is higher than 6 days/103 quest score of 1,742. If any of our Russian friends could post a screenshot of such a run my curiosity would be satisfied and I won't even think of doing such a feat.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:25 AM
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Reloaded my last save from my previous run, you are correct, a unit does block the bridge preventing further adventuring after this point.

It is still possible, but more careful time management is needed. Non-quest enemies could also be skipped since I ended with 1,056,007 experience which is a good buffer away from the required 875,000(?) to achieve level 30. Skipping enemies goes against my completist nature though...

I'm just actually curious if it is possible since 5 days/102 quests gives a score of 1,747 which is higher than 6 days/103 quest score of 1,742. If any of our Russian friends could post a screenshot of such a run my curiosity would be satisfied and I won't even think of doing such a feat.
Just let it go is my advice. Take a fortnight off and come back recharged for Armored Princess. New units, new islands, new challenge.
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Old 06-23-2021, 05:39 PM
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Reloaded my last save from my previous run, you are correct, a unit does block the bridge preventing further adventuring after this point.

It is still possible, but more careful time management is needed. Non-quest enemies could also be skipped since I ended with 1,056,007 experience which is a good buffer away from the required 875,000(?) to achieve level 30. Skipping enemies goes against my completist nature though...

I'm just actually curious if it is possible since 5 days/102 quests gives a score of 1,747 which is higher than 6 days/103 quest score of 1,742. If any of our Russian friends could post a screenshot of such a run my curiosity would be satisfied and I won't even think of doing such a feat.
Just in case anyone looks back at this thread after >10 years:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=2524766776
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=2524766722

It's hard to guess from the "Most effective troops" stats, but the big stroke of luck in this run was access to 2 Shamans after the Dragon's Tooth Tavern quest extremely early in the game.
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Old 10-31-2009, 06:11 PM
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loreangelicus, you are giving me a laugh reading back over those old threads. Cheers for that. KBH was basically complaining from day 1 about how people were apparently cheating because they were winning on Impossible easily/quickly. There was a time when I didn't think anyone would beat the 20 day mark on Impossible, but that was proven to be wrong. Live and learn.

BTW, Calinda has beaten Armored Princess (in Russian) in ten days on Impossible in his first run through:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...?t=7728&page=2

How d'ya like that, KBH?
I don't like it at all Sir!

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