Time to admit defeat with this game?

[FOZ_1983]

Another one bites the dust. Numbers are dwindelling, not good

[Panzergranate]

Well I've finally mastered flying the Fw-190 A5 on simulator. (Controls set to 100% and lots of practice to familiarise myself with the foilbles and unstabilty of the bloody thing).

I was involved in a series of X-Box 360 BOP with one side flying P-47s and the other Fw-190s of various grades.

I managed one kill (aimed and blew off a wingtip on a P-47), clipped a tree with a wing whilst chasing another, was shot down twice and watched Wizzard spin out of control in his P-51 B after I scored only 5 hits on the tail / fuselage from 200 yards. I didn't score that one and wasn't able to take aim at him otherwise I would have stuffed it too.

For a 12 player game it was a lot of fun.

As for COD.... after COD 3 it was dumbed down, made easier on story mode, filled with carappy gimmics and aimed at kids. There are still big games on every night on COD 3 with Buell 37 hosting. The common age of the players is over 30 and several women play too.

I think that BOP will still have folks, who are into WW2 aviation, still playing it in 2 years time.

On the lack of players on the PS 3 just reflects on the lack of interest in Sony with looking after their Playstation online gaming system. Nobody oversees or polices it weed out dickheads and assholes, etc.

The X-Box Live, is the direct opposite of this and is both maintains, overseen and policed.... but then again Microsoft has vastly more money to spend than Sony.

All this makes the X-Box 360 vastly more popular than the Playstation 3 so there are more folks found to play against on the X-Box than the Playstation.

X-Box is the modern Sinclair Spectrum here in the UK and X-Box games dominate the shelves of Gamestation and Game franchise shops.

We mustn't forget all those loosers and unfortunates who have a Wii, which is aimed at Kintergarten aged players, Politically Correct households, those who like uninspiring, tedious and lame games, etc.

[dazz1971]

Originally Posted by Panzergranate

Well I've finally mastered flying the Fw-190 A5 on simulator. (Controls set to 100% and lots of practice to familiarise myself with the foilbles and unstabilty of the bloody thing).

I was involved in a series of X-Box 360 BOP with one side flying P-47s and the other Fw-190s of various grades.

I managed one kill (aimed and blew off a wingtip on a P-47), clipped a tree with a wing whilst chasing another, was shot down twice and watched Wizzard spin out of control in his P-51 B after I scored only 5 hits on the tail / fuselage from 200 yards. I didn't score that one and wasn't able to take aim at him otherwise I would have stuffed it too.

For a 12 player game it was a lot of fun.

As for COD.... after COD 3 it was dumbed down, made easier on story mode, filled with carappy gimmics and aimed at kids. There are still big games on every night on COD 3 with Buell 37 hosting. The common age of the players is over 30 and several women play too.

I think that BOP will still have folks, who are into WW2 aviation, still playing it in 2 years time.

On the lack of players on the PS 3 just reflects on the lack of interest in Sony with looking after their Playstation online gaming system. Nobody oversees or polices it weed out dickheads and assholes, etc.

The X-Box Live, is the direct opposite of this and is both maintains, overseen and policed.... but then again Microsoft has vastly more money to spend than Sony.

All this makes the X-Box 360 vastly more popular than the Playstation 3 so there are more folks found to play against on the X-Box than the Playstation.

X-Box is the modern Sinclair Spectrum here in the UK and X-Box games dominate the shelves of Gamestation and Game franchise shops.

We mustn't forget all those loosers and unfortunates who have a Wii, which is aimed at Kintergarten aged players, Politically Correct households, those who like uninspiring, tedious and lame games, etc.

mate are you even posting on the same planet as the rest of us ???

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by dazz1971

mate are you even posting on the same planet as the rest of us ???

No way man. We like going off on weird tangents, that go no where for the discussion at hand. lol

[Panzergranate]

Yes I am stuck on the sam carppy planet as the rest of you. Having an X-Box makes it a bit more tollerable.

So the BOP game has issues but there are other games with bigger issues.

Flash Point has numerous bugs but the designers state that they are working to resolve them.... and some of these are major spurious bugs. (Magic Magazine, Invisible Gun, Bullet Proof Bot, Repair Glitch, etc.)

Back to BOP and the bugs are becoming well known and familiar with those who play the game. The thing is, where the creator of FP want players to let them know the bugs as they find them, who at 1C is asking for a list of bugs from players??

Furthermore, the inconsistancies between the same aircraft types in PC and MAC IL-2 titles and IL-2 BOP is so different so as to appear that certain aircraft are totally crap in combat when historically they we'ren't smack of someone deliberately sabotaging them via the flight models used in BOP.

Many of my friends who play BOP online have mentioned that the game appears to have some aircraft "sabotaged" and I tend to agree.

Basically the Fw-190 A5, Fw-190 F8, Fw-190 D9, P-51 B, P-51 D5 and Bf-110 C4 do not fly as they do in other IL-2 games or on other sims I've played over the years. Also they do not fly or perform the same as their real life counterparts.

P-51 Builder builds and flys real P-51 Mustangs so his opinon of the inaacurate way the BOP P-51 flies is gospel.

Conversely all the other aircraft fly exactly as they did in real life and as still flying examples do.

The big question is why were the above listed aircraft sabotaged in BOP, by whom and what was the motive behind this.

[Doktorwzzerd]

Originally Posted by Panzergranate

I managed one kill (aimed and blew off a wingtip on a P-47), clipped a tree with a wing whilst chasing another, was shot down twice and watched Wizzard spin out of control in his P-51 B after I scored only 5 hits on the tail / fuselage from 200 yards. I didn't score that one and wasn't able to take aim at him otherwise I would have stuffed it too.

hey you try to break turn and barrel roll on a chopped throttle at tree top level in a P-51B and see if you don't spin out too! This is another example of why both the crash/kill system and 51 needs to get fixed ASAP!

Those games were pretty fun BTW, the 360 has been really good, but you have to do it all through creating servers and friends lists, if you just go through the game's search you get nada.

[FOZ_1983]

In all fairness the P51 shouldnt be fighting down low, its not where its at its strongest.

[Doktorwzzerd]

Originally Posted by FOZ_1983

In all fairness the P51 shouldnt be fighting down low, its not where its at its strongest.

sh!t happens?

also 99.999% of dogfights on MP happen below 5000ft, there ain't much choice.