P51D v 109K in BoP

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by LostInSpace

Interesting post FOZ. Glad you tested the P-51's top speed at altitude to see if it matched the known speed. Nearly 100 MPH off? That's inexcusable.
It seems as if the P-51 has gotten the short end of the stick for some reason. One could argue that it appears to be intentional.

In case any developers are reading this can you respond? We know the patch has been submitted to Microsoft........

We don't even know that for sure. They never said for certain that the title update had been sent to Microsoft/Sony, only that it was about to be sent. We haven't had a post from a dev since then, that was hmm about 3 weeks ago?

[LostInSpace]

OK I must be going crazy or I read the post quickly. I could have sworn that a developer wrote that the patch was sent to Microsoft for certification. Well this makes things a whole lot worse.

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by LostInSpace

OK I must be going crazy or I read the post quickly. I could have sworn that a developer wrote that the patch was sent to Microsoft for certification. Well this makes things a whole lot worse.

I wouldn't worry about it. I'm sure it has been sent, it's just the devs never said "The update has now been sent off today" A month ago they said it was in final QA (whatever that means) and would be sent in the next couple of days. Heard nothing new since then, They could have held it back a week or more to add something else, we don't know.

[FOZ_1983]

Bit more research and it would appear that the P51 is well of, but the patch will address this so for now i will let it go and just leave this as "current". When the patch is released i'll take up the new P51 and compare with the old P51

Pope, cheers for the offer mate, we'll have to get it sorted

[mattmanB182]

I'm not worried about the P-51 at all. I'll just keep enjoying to kill them.

They are the most over rated plane in history, so people will not be happy with its performance no matter what patch comes out.

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by mattmanB182

I'm not worried about the P-51 at all. I'll just keep enjoying to kill them.

They are the most over rated plane in history, so people will not be happy with its performance no matter what patch comes out.

I think it might be "slightly" over rated, but that aside its still a nice plane to fly, it looks good and it did the job. It should be at least able to dogfight in some capacity.

As it is your fighting with the stick for control more than you are with the enemy.

[irrelevant]

Originally Posted by mattmanB182

I'm not worried about the P-51 at all. I'll just keep enjoying to kill them.

They are the most over rated plane in history, so people will not be happy with its performance no matter what patch comes out.

dude, i'm getting a little tired of your pro-german, anti-american remarks. it's getting tired. i love that you're proud of your heritage, but if you love it so much why don't you move to germany? seriously, GTFO. i get so sick of people living in this country and hyping up whatever country they were born in or where their ancestors were born. if you love it so much, LEAVE.

the p-51 is the most over-rated plane in history? you're a tool. you tell me why your beloved luftwaffe aces both respected and feared p-51's... (just as much as p-51 pilots feared and respected the luftwaffe). they were great planes.

seriously, it was a RESPECTED fighter. yet you're so pro-german you can't see straight. i love 109's and 190's... they are GREAT. but to sit here and read your ignorant remarks makes me want to have your ass deported (if only i had the power).

[Soviet Ace]

I like the 109, 190, and P-51. But do either of you know which plane could wreck them both easily? YAK-3!!!!! (Now how's that for some hype )

[mattmanB182]

Originally Posted by irrelevant

dude, i'm getting a little tired of your pro-german, anti-american remarks. it's getting tired. i love that you're proud of your heritage, but if you love it so much why don't you move to germany? seriously, GTFO. i get so sick of people living in this country and hyping up whatever country they were born in or where their ancestors were born. if you love it so much, LEAVE.

the p-51 is the most over-rated plane in history? you're a tool. you tell me why your beloved luftwaffe aces both respected and feared p-51's... (just as much as p-51 pilots feared and respected the luftwaffe). they were great planes.

seriously, it was RESPECTED fighter. yet you're so pro-german you can't see straight. i love 109's and 190's... they are GREAT. but to sit here and read your ignorant remarks makes me want to have your ass deported (if only i had the power).

Dude, you really need to take a chill pill. The Mustang ALWAYS wins every comparison I have seen on TV. Including the show "Top Tens". How could it beat the Spitfire? Just because it had range, people think of it as Gods gift to mankind.

I never even said it was a BAD plane...its very good. But that does not mean its not highly over rated.

Some people seem to think it should handle like a UFO and fly at mach 2 just because its a MUSTANG. And by some people, I mean the casual person who watches the history channel or other programs every now and then. They all tend to make it seem like the be all end all plane, and its not.

And please dont question my patriotism, you dont even know me. I have to love the mustang or I am not American enough for you? I should be deported?

Two words for you: GROW UP

I can't help it that my two favorite American planes are not in the game...and I love them both.

Narrowminded people like you give America a bad name. Thats why others call Americans arrogant.

I am just saying that there are many planes equal to...or better than the stang.

Dont tell me to respect a plane, when You cant even respect the opinions of someone else.

[Panzergranate]

I've noticed that the performance of the P-51 D5 in BOP more or less matches the lack of performance of the P-51 D5 in BSP, as I;ve noticed that the maximum speed attainable in both, in level flight, is in the 360 MPH range.

I've only manged over 400 MPH in steep dives in both BOP and BSP.

However only BSP seems to have the P-51 handling close to the real thing.

Ironically, the underpowered Alison P-51 A has a maximum speed of 360 MPH, so I'm wondering if somebody used the wrong figures somewhere??