I've had it.

[PapaBoon]

I know this is nothing new....just venting!

I have to admit after a 5 vs 5 TB match last night and there are more crash deaths than actual kills, it gets a little bit annoying to keep playing.

I really don't mind getting my @$$ shot off a zillion times ( nice flying Pudgy) but when you pepper the crap out of another plane and he crashes and you don't get credit for the kill.

I find myself thinking what's the point! But, I'll keep flying!

[Tudorp15]

That happens allot. There are a few out there that crash on purpose, to either refresh their plane, or to deny you the kill. There will always be those few that do that. I myself, try to stay up so the one that shot me up can get their earned kill, but in realistic, or sim, that is not always possible. I tend to fly low level most the time anyway, and if someone gets some good hits on me, in many cases, I loose lift on one wing, or the other, and can not keep the plane up. At 100 feet or less from the ground, not allot of room for error, or time to get the kill before I hit the ground. But, I do try to give my attacker time to finish me off for his kill point. Give the benefit of the doubt, and hope they at least tried to to stay airborn and not let it bother you. You will enjoy the game much more if you don't take it too seriously...

That said, I was just chatting with my foe last night... I fly pretty good, even though I am not that great getting kills in the air. But, In allot of cases, I can out fly my opponent and cause him to crash, hit the ground, or run him into another obsticle. I have scrapped foe off my butt using the cliffs of Dover many times. It is a kill, although not provable, or even get any points for it. But I don't care, I get the personal satisfaction that I caused him to crash.

[Doktorwzzerd]

I'm absolutely convinced that this issue is 100% due to the no wheel brake bug on the joystick set-ups. I've been playing exclusively on the gamepad and I have no tipping issues at all. Also I've played CTA with people that were much better pilots than I am, all were using joysticks, and they kept crashing and crashing and crashing, while I was able to land clean every time.

Try it with a gamepad and you'll see.

[Rhah]

While I agree about the lack of brake issue on the joystick, I have to say that I quite often end up stacking my plane at 30mph during landings, and i'm using a control pad (PS3). I've found that the only way to avoid this is too brake in short bursts, and when you get near 30mph, stop braking and let it roll to a stop.

Of course, that doesn't help the joystick users, but it works for me!

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by Doktorwzzerd

I'm absolutely convinced that this issue is 100% due to the no wheel brake bug on the joystick set-ups. I've been playing exclusively on the gamepad and I have no tipping issues at all. Also I've played CTA with people that were much better pilots than I am, all were using joysticks, and they kept crashing and crashing and crashing, while I was able to land clean every time.

Try it with a gamepad and you'll see.

Bug might not be the right word.. and maybe 100% is a bit much. I agree it's easier to land with the pad, but that's mainly because you can actually brake with it. It'll be solved after the patch though .

[Robotic Pope]

I want to apologise to the original poster. I play a lot of sim CTA so I know how to land on sim, BUT.... I'm not a big user of the spitfire, and have never used it in CTA game. Well tonight not many people were around on IL2 so I did some single player missions on sim mode and got to the battle of britain mission were you have to do touch a goes. I thought I might as well just land and stop. Well I couldn't, The spit tipped over once, then again with my wing man.

So I did a training mission at dover with the spitfire and Every damn time it would nose over. I finaly managed to land it a few times by putting the throttle into WEP at about 34 mph, letting the speed raise to about 45 mph and then cut the throttle and braking to 33 mph and then coasting past the nose over zone (which then seems half as strong as before and more like the tip forward that the other planes have) then braking to a stop. But this only works 1 time every 5 tries though. It does seem like a Spitfire only glitch, the mkIX is even worse than the mkII.

[xX-SiLeNcE-Xx]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

I want to apologise to the original poster. I play a lot of sim CTA so I know how to land on sim, BUT.... I'm not a big user of the spitfire, and have never used it in CTA game. Well tonight not many people were around on IL2 so I did some single player missions on sim mode and got to the battle of britain mission were you have to do touch a goes. I thought I might as well just land and stop. Well I couldn't, The spit tipped over once, then again with my wing man.

So I did a training mission at dover with the spitfire and Every damn time it would nose over. I finaly managed to land it a few times by putting the throttle into WEP at about 34 mph, letting the speed raise to about 45 mph and then cut the throttle and braking to 33 mph and then coasting past the nose over zone (which then seems half as strong as before and more like the tip forward that the other planes have) then braking to a stop. But this only works 1 time every 5 tries though. It does seem like a Spitfire only glitch, the mkIX is even worse than the mkII.

Were you forcing the back wheel onto the ground? When you land in this game you shouldn't use any elevators...

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by xX-SiLeNCE-Xx

Were you forcing the back wheel onto the ground? When you land in this game you shouldn't use any elevators...

Made no difference. Besides at 30mph the weight of the plane is fully on the wheels and there is very little lift generated by any of the wings. anyway, having the elevator up pushing the rear wheel down how could that make the whole rear spring up like that. Its like its rear wheel has a pogo mechanism in it. where the hell does that energy come from because it isn't from the brakes as they are off or forward motion, which continues to decrese at the same rate as before the tip up only the nose digging in causes it to stop.