Question on kill Steals

[mdbuehler]

Originally Posted by DoraNine

Dude,
First of all -- there's no such thing as "kill stealing", if they can't finish the job -- it's your obligation to do so for them

What he said! Either shoot the guy down, or get out of my way and let me finish the job!

I'm sure back in the war guys weren't getting mad that somebody else put rounds into a plane that was trying to kill you both anyway Folks go on about 'kill stealing' in most of the FPS I play too, and I just ignore them. First to finish the job wins in my book! Letting an enemy stay alive and a threat just so somebody else can get points doesn't make sense, and from a team playing perspective its quite selfish on there part. I've gotten several kills while being chased and shot apart by somebody on my tail.

I'd feel like a bit of a jerk if another of my teammates was shot down by my quarry because I refused to let anybody else who had a shot finish him off before I could.

[Tudorp15]

It happens to me all the time. Mainly because I am not that great at dog fighting. It is common knowlege for the most part that my game is CTA, and strike. I hit grounded aircraft pretty good and pretty lethal in that game. But air to air, I am sure it is pretty painful for some of the better air fighters to watch me beat on someone for a couple minutes, and still not get a kill. It irritates me when a hot rod swoops down and takes my kill, especially when they are smoking. But, if they are not, I think they are not smoking I think they can be considered fair game. I see some smokers, and if I don't notice someone in pursuit of them, I will go for that easy kill, but if I see someone in battle with them already, I will move on to someone else. But sometimes, in the "Fog Of War" it will happen and simply not intesional. I try not to get too upset if a kill is taken from me, unless it was so obvious there was no way they could think it was a fair snatch..

As in another thread I had started, it happens in Strikes too.. I don't want to re go over what I posted in the other thread, but, banging the hell out of a ground target, for someone to swoop in and drop one bomb and getting the credit for a destroyed ground target does get to me..

[Hrok81]

It happens sometimes I chase a plane for a while and a teammate comes, scores a kill and goes away.
Honestly speaking, it doesn't bother me too much. Of course I'd like to be the one who shoots down the enemy plane and gets the score (I agree 100% about rewarded assist kills), but then it's my skills that have to be improved, I can't blame a pilot just because he's better than me at shooting.
"Next time kill will be mine" that's all I think. To me team comes first.

Still, if I see a smoking plane, I usually don't try to finish it off (I think i did once or twice tho, in the rage of battle might happen).

My two cents

Ps. if you all are using headsets, what's better than communicate during dogfight in order to coordinate action and prevent such situations?

[Tudorp15]

Sometimes, the headsets are used just to yell at each other either justified or not. Fortunatly, the bunch of guys I fly with, tend to go into a party chat, and have a blast. Yeah, we yell at each other sometimes, but it is in jest, and taken as such. Many times, we are on separate teams, but still remain in the same party chat, so we get to banter each other as well. It is loads of fun if you get a bunch of guys that don't take the game too seriously, and have allot of fun with each other...

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by Hrok81

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Ps. if you all are using headsets, what's better than communicate during dogfight in order to coordinate action and prevent such situations?

Quite impossible in sim . 'I'm chasing the Spit, don't shoot it!' 'Which of the five?' 'The one with the red paint on it's wing!' 'Right..'

Off-topic: Nice sig Tudorp, you made it? (New part )

[dazz1971]

kill stealing? bull**** mate if a plane is filling your gun sight shoot that mofo down after all its one step closer to victory for your team and thats what counts just unplug your mic if ppl start yelling anyway having no comms = less lag

[Tudorp15]

yeah, I made them... I made a couple and couldn't decide which to put on my sig, so I just combined two of them.. lol..

Thanks..

[Lexandro]

Kill stealing is frankly nonsense.

If a pilot can't take an aircraft down in the first 30 seconds of gunfire then he has a crap aim, and doesnt deserve the kill. The planes are fragile, they were called crates for a good reason.

If someones shooting at me and I make a move and take them out and a team member bitches about a kill "theft" I ignore them totally, because they are a fraking liability. Wingmen should be taking them out BEFORE they can get on your 6.

And if an enemy is trailing smoke and has a friendly on his 6, then its my job to GAURD that friendly to ensure a kill. That is, up until the 30 second mark I mentioned earlier.

These are the "rules" I fly by and it holds me in good stead.

[ChankyChank]

If you're talking about team matches (everything except dogfight) it shouldn't matter who gets the kill, the team still gets the victory. At the end of the match it doesn't matter which player has the most kills as long as your team is the winning team. Whoever is whining about kill stealing should've finished the job themselves if they're that concerned with it. And besides, it doesn't matter anyway, theres no leaderboards on player match (I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that ever plays ranked sim matches) so who cares who gets credit.

[jkerr419]

Thanks guys! I really wasn't complaining....but wanted to get an idea of your guys' opinion on the issue. Thanks again.