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Old 10-06-2009, 08:17 PM
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Finally someone who brings his opinion about the DLC, AFTER he checked it out.

Getting annoyed by all those people who flame the devs for releasing it and asking 5 bucks.

Hopefully the P-47 will fly like it should, after the update. I so love the P-47/P-51
To be fair... I think the P-47's flight model is pretty accurate as it stands. The thing can dive like hell... Yet isn't the most maneuverable fighter in the bunch.

But unfortunately... I never flew any real fighter planes in WWII. So it's a bit hard for this Goat to verify.

Now the P-51... Once again... Never flew one in real life... But if it handled like that in real life... Then I don't see how we ever gained air superiority... Even over pigeons.
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:38 PM
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To be fair... I think the P-47's flight model is pretty accurate as it stands. The thing can dive like hell... Yet isn't the most maneuverable fighter in the bunch.

But unfortunately... I never flew any real fighter planes in WWII. So it's a bit hard for this Goat to verify.

Now the P-51... Once again... Never flew one in real life... But if it handled like that in real life... Then I don't see how we ever gained air superiority... Even over pigeons.
I hear that it handles like that because of full tank makes it heavy, maybe if flown with 1/4 left of fuel, maybe..
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:41 PM
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I hear that it handles like that because of full tank makes it heavy, maybe if flown with 1/4 left of fuel, maybe..
I guess I could fly the P-51 for 7 hours to verify this...

Just kidding. I don't have the patience for that task.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:07 PM
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That is a good review. I already had the P-47 from the pre-order thing, and love it. But like said, it flys like a refridgerator. It is, what it is, and that is a good dive bomber. It dives awesome, but be careful, it's climb rate kinda sucks, and ya better pull out of the dive in time taking that in consideration. It is fun in strike, it helped me gain the B-17. I used it allot in CTA too like mentioned, and it is fun for that. I battled a little in it, but I suck in air to air myself, but had some luck with it because it is fast. I would run out of the battle area, climb, and dive back into the battle area attacing someone in a dive. Hitting and then running like hell back out to set up for another assault. It did pretty good that way, but not a champ. It was fun, but ya aint gonna win the battle that way. Just about any other fighter can beat it in turns, and if it is assaulted from the front, that seems to be it's weakness. The engines get shot out pretty quick. it is a fun plane to fly, but, you got to remember you aint in a ferarri.. It's a boat... I still love it though and fly it fairly regularly. Even having it already, i still put out the $5 for the download just for the missions that feature it, and I'm not disappointed in that..

ADDENDOM: By the way.. In dogfighting with it, I found that I can make tighter turns if I chop the thottle to about 50-60%. It still wouldn't out turn many of the other fighters, but it did help. It's speed though is what kept me alive.. the "Hit & Run" approach to air battles, if you are any good, you might pull it off in the air..

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Old 10-06-2009, 11:30 PM
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you might pull it off in the air..
thats all i needed, a fighting chance . Dont care if it gets outturned, so does a bf109. As ling as it can be flown to be competitive .
Cant wait to fly this ship

How are the guns? you say hit and run kind of works, but does it have the armament to do a boom and zoom?
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:41 PM
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Not sure what the "Boom and Zoom" is. I heard the term, but not sure exactly what that term means. But, it sounds like what I am calling "Hit and Run"... Might be the same, and what I meant..



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thats all i needed, a fighting chance . Dont care if it gets outturned, so does a bf109. As ling as it can be flown to be competitive .
Cant wait to fly this ship

How are the guns? you say hit and run kind of works, but does it have the armament to do a boom and zoom?
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:59 PM
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To be fair... I think the P-47's flight model is pretty accurate as it stands. The thing can dive like hell... Yet isn't the most maneuverable fighter in the bunch.
Do you think it can stand its own in a sim team dogfight? Or is it inferior in every single way? can you compare it to the 109 g-10 (or g-2) and to the spit. And tell me if it has a chance against them, and what would be it strengths and weaknesses.

(im waiting for my MS point to arrive, and I want to know if the P-47 is going to make me a bit happy).
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:30 PM
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Do you think it can stand its own in a sim team dogfight? Or is it inferior in every single way? can you compare it to the 109 g-10 (or g-2) and to the spit. And tell me if it has a chance against them, and what would be it strengths and weaknesses.

(im waiting for my MS point to arrive, and I want to know if the P-47 is going to make me a bit happy).
Strengths: 8 .50 cals., and diving. That's it.

Weakness: Everything else.

You may could pull some kills off by finding enemies who are occupied with others. I can almost guarantee your deaths would be higher. It just can't compete in a turn fight. And unfortunately, that's what 90% of BOP dogfights are.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:32 PM
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Strengths: 8 .50 cals., and diving. That's it.

Weakness: Everything else.

You may could pull some kills off by finding enemies who are occupied with others. I can almost guarantee your deaths would be higher. It just can't compete in a turn fight. And unfortunately, that's what 90% of BOP dogfights are.

On a scale of 1 to 10. If a spit turns like a 8, a bf109 like a 6. what would the p-47 be?

Goat, did you ever fly the 109 g-10? if yes, is it slower + worse turning than that one?

the patch might give the P-47 more chance, because of the blackouts in continuous turns... i hope

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Old 10-06-2009, 11:33 PM
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On a scale of 1 to 10. If a spit turns like a 8, a bf109 like a 6. what would the p-47 be?
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