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Old 10-04-2009, 08:30 PM
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Thanks for the great work!

The new Biplane is now my favourite one, it tolerates the most ridiculous manoeuvres €:-]

Where can one buy this plane in real life ( in case of me being rich some day @ )?
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:11 AM
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Tricoder, a track? Or real constructive/descriptive comment?

Avia B-534 has been tested at least by 2 real life pilots (one military one, one civilian one) during 4.09 beta-testing. They had no issues with it's FM. They found the flight characteristics believable and solid.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:30 PM
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Sorry guys, but mambonight.co.uk cannot mirror the patch any more....
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:20 PM
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Tricoder, a track? Or real constructive/descriptive comment?

Avia B-534 has been tested at least by 2 real life pilots (one military one, one civilian one) during 4.09 beta-testing. They had no issues with it's FM. They found the flight characteristics believable and solid.

Is it a hope that old planes also would be corrected in future - mostly in performance values ? I mean at least such planes:

- Spitfires MK V - atually we have hybride version with too low speed at sea level and too good climb rate - it doesnt not represent any known data for Spits MK V

- Fw 190 A series - acceleration bug - all Fw 190 A accelerate too slow in game. I know where it is these bug in Fw 190 A FM data ( it was actually fixed in some new added ones)

- many 109 types has wrong data and not accurate performance ( e.x 109 E-4, 109 G-2, 109 6 A/S)

- P-51 with its wing broken during high speed manouvers and directional unstabilty - it could be fixed in simple way

and some others - I dont mention here most dubfully russian planes like LA familly series.

It is hope that it would be fixed in normal official patch relase that we all could have the same basic version not in many second hand mods?
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:53 PM
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Is it a hope that old planes also would be corrected in future - mostly in performance values ? I mean at least such planes:

- Spitfires MK V - atually we have hybride version with too low speed at sea level and too good climb rate - it doesnt not represent any known data for Spits MK V

- Fw 190 A series - acceleration bug - all Fw 190 A accelerate too slow in game. I know where it is these bug in Fw 190 A FM data ( it was actually fixed in some new added ones)

- many 109 types has wrong data and not accurate performance ( e.x 109 E-4, 109 G-2, 109 6 A/S)

- P-51 with its wing broken during high speed manouvers and directional unstabilty - it could be fixed in simple way

and some others - I dont mention here most dubfully russian planes like LA familly series.

It is hope that it would be fixed in normal official patch relase that we all could have the same basic version not in many second hand mods?
totally agreed with tihs comment, i say the same as you said, fw190 in the real life is capable to reach 1800hp without any boost, in the game the fw190A have only 1400hp, 400hp less, thats is the reason
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:03 PM
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Not necessarily. The BMW 801 D-2 was not cleared for the full 1700PS Take-Off performance right away, but was derated (= blocking Take-Off and Emergency performance settings via putting a screw into the throttle's way). This was done to minimize the danger of engine damage and to prolong its life which eased logistical questions. But of course pilots had different ideas about it and so they chose power (when necessary) over safety in numbers.
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:49 PM
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totally agreed with tihs comment, i say the same as you said, fw190 in the real life is capable to reach 1800hp without any boost, in the game the fw190A have only 1400hp, 400hp less, thats is the reason
Wrong.
-less hp can be compensated by other parameters from both engine and airframe parameters and usually is (does it reach correct max speed even with low hp? Why?)
-ingame FW190A4 does not have only 1400hp, it has more than 1800.
You can't rely on one number from some stranger on internet without knowing context and meaning of other numbers around.


@ramstein: if you still have that info, please post it on forum or send to DT mail. It could be very interesting read.
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:58 PM
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Wrong.
-less hp can be compensated by other parameters from both engine and airframe parameters and usually is (does it reach correct max speed even with low hp? Why?)
-ingame FW190A4 does not .....................................

@ramstein: if you still have that info, please post it on forum or send to DT mail. It could be very interesting read.
well, I know the person who has it, or had it, I am pretty sure they were exaserbated after the whole thinhg, and not sure if they will help again... they pretty much gave up and was resigned to the problems never being fixed.. I wil ask them very soon, if they would provide it, but I am pretty sure the package they have and submitted was not just a forum post, it was very heavy information.. so They would probably need direct communication... and it would have to be taken serious... not just forum banter.. this person is a professional...
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:42 PM
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Is it a hope that old planes also would be corrected in future - mostly in performance values ? I mean at least such planes:

- Spitfires MK V - atually we have hybride version with too low speed at sea level and too good climb rate - it doesnt not represent any known data for Spits MK V

- Fw 190 A series - acceleration bug - all Fw 190 A accelerate too slow in game. I know where it is these bug in Fw 190 A FM data ( it was actually fixed in some new added ones)

- many 109 types has wrong data and not accurate performance ( e.x 109 E-4, 109 G-2, 109 6 A/S)

- P-51 with its wing broken during high speed manouvers and directional unstabilty - it could be fixed in simple way
We will try to fix everything that we can and that it can be backuped with documentation.

Spits-If you have some info about the Spits you can PM me, I know that it is possible to find lot of info at "Spitfireperformance" but if you have already found most representative variants than you could save me some time. Mostly interested in MkV and early MkIX.

FW-I would hardly call it a bug although low speed acceleration could be better IMO. I don't see,though, how would that improvement be of much help for average pilot unless you over do it. If I'm not mistaken you made some FW's for Ultrapack and just by looking at FM files I would say that these FW's are too optimistic. You can PM me what you think would be realistic performance of FW and I'll see what can be done.

Bf109-they are strange in general, major rework of whole family wouldn't hurt IMO.

P51-now I'm curious, I would love to hear what you think should be done to make plane behave correctly.

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Old 10-05-2009, 09:00 PM
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This is a good resource for FW-190 fans:
http://old.acompletewasteofspace.com...=viewforum&f=8
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