Problems with turrets

I hope will be fixed, like I hope we will see cockpits for A-20, H-111 and all the small bombers.

However , I am semi-OT but I noticed gunners cannot be killed, aren't you? I treid a training mission P-51 vs h-111 trying to kill only the dorsal gunner but he continued to fire...

[Tiwatz]

Originally Posted by iannik

However , I am semi-OT but I noticed gunners cannot be killed, aren't you? I treid a training mission P-51 vs h-111 trying to kill only the dorsal gunner but he continued to fire...

yeah I noticed that too... the only crew that seem to be mortal are the pilots themselves.

[Lexandro]

If the B-17 had full turret coverage in the game it would make it 50x harder to kill it or even get near it. The devs have limited the turrets abilities to make the game more balanced.

[Tiwatz]

Originally Posted by Lexandro

If the B-17 had full turret coverage in the game it would make it 50x harder to kill it or even get near it. The devs have limited the turrets abilities to make the game more balanced.

if they simply made the gunners killable then they would need to screw up the planes.

[Lexandro]

Originally Posted by Tiwatz

if they simply made the gunners killable then they would need to screw up the planes.

Ok so your a master coder then? You know exactly how to code it so that there are gunners and they can die? Thought not. Dont make dispariging remarks about the devs when you cant do the job yourself. Its not exactly easy to model in that kind of thing. Plus it gives the game a huge balance issue when bomber gunner positions are no longer functional.

Originally Posted by Lexandro

Ok so your a master coder then? You know exactly how to code it so that there are gunners and they can die? Thought not. Dont make dispariging remarks about the devs when you cant do the job yourself. Its not exactly easy to model in that kind of thing. Plus it gives the game a huge balance issue when bomber gunner positions are no longer functional.

I think anyone is free to speak here even remark if in disappoint. If not, this community will never grow up like this game will never grow up.

[P-51]

Originally Posted by Lexandro

Ok so your a master coder then? You know exactly how to code it so that there are gunners and they can die? Thought not. Dont make dispariging remarks about the devs when you cant do the job yourself. Its not exactly easy to model in that kind of thing. Plus it gives the game a huge balance issue when bomber gunner positions are no longer functional.

Cant they just copy and paste the code for the pilots?

[Lexandro]

Originally Posted by P-51

Cant they just copy and paste the code for the pilots?

No, its a seperate function iirc. Its not as simple as that, it never is im afraid.

[Tiwatz]

Originally Posted by Lexandro

Ok so your a master coder then? You know exactly how to code it so that there are gunners and they can die? Thought not. Dont make dispariging remarks about the devs when you cant do the job yourself. Its not exactly easy to model in that kind of thing. Plus it gives the game a huge balance issue when bomber gunner positions are no longer functional.

Hmmm, really? Seems to work pretty well in all the other IL-2 games... and no- I don't know how to code- but I do know that the entire rest of the series has killable gunners.

[Lexandro]

Originally Posted by Tiwatz

Hmmm, really? Seems to work pretty well in all the other IL-2 games... and no- I don't know how to code- but I do know that the entire rest of the series has killable gunners.

Those titles are all PC games. Consoles are a totally different ball game, which many a dev house has found out to its demise. As I said, unless you yourself know how to code them in to the console game, make it balanced, and bug free then your free to make dispariging remarks on how the game was developed and released.