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IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Famous title comes to consoles.

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Old 09-29-2009, 07:06 PM
Werner Molders Werner Molders is offline
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Its quite frankly not a big deal, but im sick of seeing planes always in favour of the Allies.

The Bf 109 had a 7:1 kill ratio

You would never believe it according to this game!!

All im asking for is a little bit of respect on the part of the German side and that seems to be too much for "Oleg's World"

Sorry but this needs to be said, im a pilot myself and i would like some justice here.

This game assumes that the Spitfire was the saviour of the day in the Battle of Britain. It wasnt, it was the Hurricane. No one ever accredits the Hurricane because it wasnt as agile or as fast and as pretty.

The top 100 fighter pilot scorers were all from Germany in World War 2! Does it not possibly occur to anyone that there is a correlation between the fact these pilots all flew Bf 109's throughout most of their careers and the horrendus kill scores!

This is just more "Spitfire is wonderful" bias in a world that believes in propoganda rather than fact. Thats all i stand for passionate flying, historical and accurate. Judge as you will.
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Old 09-29-2009, 07:09 PM
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if you play online, you see more 109's than spits. So I think many people DO like the 109 more than the spit. And this is your point right? that this spit 'is the plane of choice' because there is no 'good 109'? (sorry if I misunderstood)
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Old 09-29-2009, 07:13 PM
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i know its a spit Mk2, and unfortunately it has cannons which it shouldnt really have since it should be a Mk1.

But...

i dont think it flies like a Mk2 in game does it? basically in game its a Mk1 but in a Mk2 airframe, so bar the cannons its pretty much a Mk2 looking Mk1


i could be wrong.
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Old 09-29-2009, 07:32 PM
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Spitfire fans rant reminds me of twilight fans when i say "Edward cullen is gay"

no offense
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:54 PM
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Spitfire fans rant reminds me of twilight fans when i say "Edward cullen is gay"

no offense
lol

Edward isn't gay... He's just a 100 year old stalker who loves a teenage girl.
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:05 PM
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I agree to a certain extent with the sentiments of the OP (not the law suit part).

They should have a Spit Mk Ia and a Hurricane Mk I in the game to be adversaries of the Bf-109E. And likewise, the Germans should have at least a 109E-4 since that variant was in use with the Luftwaffe at the beginning of the BoB. Also, and I think I've said this before - I know others have - but, performance of the German aircraft seems to be lacking versus the Allied aircraft. From what I know, the Spit and 109 were relatively comparable in most respects, the 109 having the climb rate advantage and the Spit having the leg-up on speed. Hurricanes should be able to out-turn 109s. It should be more of a toss-up with the 109 and Spit. Also, the negative-g cutout on the Merlins of the early Spits and Hurricanes doesn't come into play in the game, as it stands - leaving a primary tactic of Luftwaffe pilots unable to be exploited.

With that said, I find life in the E-3 okay. It could be better, but it ain't bad. In fact I think it has a bit of an advantage against late-war planes, if you can keep your six clear. You're much slower, so people tend to overshoot. You have a competitive roll rate. In some matches, people tend to ignore you and go for the "more dangerous" opponents (G-6, Spit IX, etc.), until they get a wing blown off by your cannons.

For the time being, us 109 pilots will have to soldier on with the gear we've got. All we really need is for the flaps to work in realistic - that'd even the score a bit. And cockpits for better orientation.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:04 AM
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Is this guy actually threatening to sue a company, in capital letters, no less, over some stupidly technical difference between aircraft variants?

It doesn't get any more pathetic than this.
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Old 09-30-2009, 04:06 AM
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Is this guy actually threatening to sue a company, in capital letters, no less, over some stupidly technical difference between aircraft variants?

It doesn't get any more pathetic than this.
Rudeness aside, I do agree with the OP for the most part.

I LOVE the game, but the Spit and 109 should be more even as far as handeling. The 109 COULD turn with the spit but most of the lesser experienced pilots did not push the airframe to its limits.

Also the 109 could actually handle MORE G's than the vaunted Spit because of the fuel injected engine. No worries about it cutting off for lack of fuel.

To be honest, I think the DB 600 series engines are better than the Merlin, they just dont get credit because they were on the losing team. I fear there will always be this bias as far as WW2 flight sims go.
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:09 AM
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Right thats it ive checked and checked but there is no p38 in this game !!!!
where is my lawyers phone number ? im gonna sue the crap out of em !!!


lmao op is a joke does he really think he can sue a company becuse they didnt put his fav plane in a game ??? k...jockey
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:30 PM
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but fill me in here then...im no expert on spit verses hurricane...but even i know the hurricane got far more kills that the spitfire in the Battle of britain. ~But, i was under the impression that the hurricane was primarily used to attack bombers, and the spitfire went for the fighters. is that not true? therefore, how would a hurricane fair against a 109 relative to a spitfire?
the only thing ive heard in favour of the hurricane over the spitfire, from veterans, was visabilty for landing, and its abiliity to take damage.

What i remember hearing, again from spitfire veterans, was that the spit was the better aircraft in a dog fight if the pilot was experiance enough to recognise what the aircraft was "saying" to him. that allowed the pilot to push a turn harder and to the absolute limit...knowing that he could read the vibration warnings of imminent stalls, which apparently the 109 just didnt have.

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