ok... who switched my B-17's armour for papier maché?

[House MD 221B]

Originally Posted by FOZ_1983

One of the very earlies i believe, if you look closer then you will notice the tail fin is shaped like the early model and also the lack of a rear gunner position. Not sure where it was captured.

yes it is a YB-17



note the ball turret "dust bin" and the tear drop waist turrets as well as the distinctive ugly tail fin

The design competition for a 'Multi-engined' bomber starting in 1934 ( at the time, 'Multi-engined' meant a twin, but Boeing thought differently ). Roll out ceremony of the Boeing 299 was 17th July 1935, with the first flight 28th. The prototype was destroyed in a take off crash during the Army competition resulting in the B-18 Bolo winning the contract. The crash was caused by the aircrew failing to remove the flying control gust locks. As a result, the B-17 became the first aircraft to have a pre-flight check list.

However, the army had been sufficiently impressed with the design and ordered 13 in service prototypes which became known as the YB-17 entering service in 1937. This put the B-17 in operation while the RAF was flying Whitleys, Wellingtons and Hampdens!!!

http://www.hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=13988

[Voyager]

Well it also looks very much like the B-17D we've got in the PC Il-2. In fact, given the B-17 descriptions from Joe Baugher's site, ( main, B-17) it sounds like it is a C or D version, given that the YB-17 is supposed to have a greenhouse turret in the nose, and it's the side gunner positions appear to be flush instead of in blisters. Can't tell if it would be a C or a D though.

On a side note, if it is required to keep the B-17 balanced, downgrading it to the D model might be viable. The D model topped out at about 4000lbs of bombs, instead of the 8000-18000 that later models could carry. It's also a 1941 plane, so it can be used in early war scenarios.

[House MD 221B]

Originally Posted by Voyager

Well it also looks very much like the B-17D we've got in the PC Il-2. In fact, given the B-17 descriptions from Joe Baugher's site, ( main, B-17) it sounds like it is a C or D version, given that the YB-17 is supposed to have a greenhouse turret in the nose, and it's the side gunner positions appear to be flush instead of in blisters. Can't tell if it would be a C or a D though.

On a side note, if it is required to keep the B-17 balanced, downgrading it to the D model might be viable. The D model topped out at about 4000lbs of bombs, instead of the 8000-18000 that later models could carry. It's also a 1941 plane, so it can be used in early war scenarios.

But the G was awesome, no-one wants to fly a D or E, even the F sucks. its not about balancing, its about getting it right, the G is just fine, it just needs fixing!

[Raw Kryptonite]

How about some fun viewing? Not making any kind of point, just plain good stuff. Another plug for Dogfights if anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4cksG7JoE8

[House MD 221B]

Awesome video!!!!!

[dazz1971]

man thats unbeliveable
thanks for posting great video