Detailed description of several ingame trucks

[Nokturnal]

Oh God you people are complaining about this game again?

Once again i need to remind you all a few things:
- This is a GAME, this is not being made by a real trucking company to teach real truckers how to drive real trucks on the real California roads. No, this is a game merely focusing on those things, while trying to give you a realistic feel.

- It might be calling itself a sim, and that may infact be reason for you all to bitch and moan - But consider playing a 100% through and through trucking sim. It would be as boring as watching paint dry.
There wouldn't be any hookers for you to pick up like the real truckers would be doing. So goodluck staying awake while you play.
I must ask, if you are so desperate to drive a real truck, why don't you? Clearly you all know more about trucks than the developers could ever know, so why aren't you all working as truckers?..

- I know i already said this point, but you all seem oblivious so i thought it should be repeated.. This is a GAME, made by a company for a profit.
If they were actually stupid enough to make the game as realistic as you all want it to be, they could say goodbye to alot of their possible customers. Developers know that sometimes you must sacrifice some realism for some entertainment. They want money, they aren't trying to help the world to drive trucks.

[nicknackpaddywack]

Originally Posted by Nokturnal

......so why aren't you all working as truckers?....

I am a real truck driver.

Oh and edit: Welldone you learnt how to bold




Edit: fixed my post... [/smugmode]

[Qwx]

Originally Posted by nicknackpaddywack

I am a real truck driver.

Oh and edit: Welldone you learnt how to bold

And you haven't learned, how to use quote .

Well, he has a point. In the end, if you want realistic experience, what can be more realistic, than driving a real truck? Most of us already know, that nicknackpaddywack is a trucker. And now I really got interested, why are you searching for a truck game? I mean, you should already spend a lot of time behind the wheel, do you really want to spend your free time simulating that same experience?

As Nokturnal said: stop moaning, everyone. The game has a purpose. If you don't like how the game came out, why do you waste your time visiting the forums and criticizing almost every aspect of it? That's just insane waste of time

[nicknackpaddywack]

Originally Posted by Qwx

And you haven't learned, how to use quote .

......you should already spend a lot of time behind the wheel, do you really want to spend your free time simulating that same experience?

Im only 23, i got my license 2 years ago. I work for a road contractor. In winter i drive 4x4-8x8 gritter/snow plows and fulltime a 32ton motorway crash cusion. I dont do many miles... normally doing about 2mph on a 70mph road....

The reason im crusading... im also a fully qualified electronics engineer, and massive simulation fan. I build joysticks part time as a hobby for computers. I spent some time (about 5 minutes) designing a circuit for a gear box for a truck sim, and i have the parts to build a "truck cab"... ok so the steering wheel handbrake valve, a few important switches and a gear lever with all the relevent stuff to go with it.

Im sure that answers your question

[Nokturnal]

Originally Posted by nicknackpaddywack

Im only 23, i got my license 2 years ago. I work for a road contractor. In winter i drive 4x4-8x8 gritter/snow plows and fulltime a 32ton motorway crash cusion. I dont do many miles... normally doing about 2mph on a 70mph road....

The reason im crusading... im also a fully qualified electronics engineer, and massive simulation fan. I build joysticks part time as a hobby for computers. I spent some time (about 5 minutes) designing a circuit for a gear box for a truck sim, and i have the parts to build a "truck cab"... ok so the steering wheel handbrake valve, a few important switches and a gear lever with all the relevent stuff to go with it.

Im sure that answers your question

That didn't really answer any question. That was just you talking about yourself for two paragaraphs.

You still haven't answered why you would want to play a truck driving sim if you are already driving trucks for a living - Even if this game was as realistic as any truck sim could ever be, it would never be the same as actually sitting behind the wheel. You know this.
As i said, an extremely realistic truck driving sim would be very dull, for the majority of people. Sure, a handful of people such as yourself might enjoy it, but they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they limited their audience to only hardcore truck-sim drivers.


Also i find it amusing that instead of trying to argue with any of my points you instead just mock me for using bold tags. Clever tactic.
What's the matter, can't think of any arguments because you know i'm right?

Continue your crusade if you insist, but it won't make a difference.
The game will be released the way they want it. They are trying to make money, they are not trying to train an army of truck drivers.
This is not an educational game, despite how much you people complain.



Oh and edit: I see you learnt how to use the full stop key. A bit too often though.

Originally Posted by nicknackpaddywack

I dont do many miles... normally doing about 2mph on a 70mph road....

Maybe you were too busy looking at truck magazines or designing joysticks in school, but most people learnt that you only need one full stop to end the sentence.

[nicknackpaddywack]

I didnt say i wanted a hardcore simulator. So take your head out your own ass a second so you can understand what im saying. All i was originally asking was why that image i linked on the first reply had a splitter switch. Until now i haven't seen any pictures with that item on them, i have been apealing for some realism on transmissions, THATS IT. The reason i want to play this game is because its going to be good. Its going to be fun, storyline and driving which they keep on saying is meant to be SO realistic. Me personally if i want a REAL experience i will just goto work.

Its not me that your frustration in an earlier post was directed at, as i don't care what they release. G25 support or not, i will still purchase this game purley for the entertainment value which i feel it offers, the added realism all along was a bonus.

So in future direct your patronising comments to someone else, im done here. This forum is full of morons anyway.

Also if you read what i wrote in response, i wasnt replying to you, i was replying to what QWX had said NOT YOU, BECAUSE I QUOTED HIM NOT YOU IN MY POST DURRRRRRRRRRRR, READ IT AGAIN AND IT WILL MAKE SENSE, I DONT DRIVE MANY MILES IN A TRUCK I SPEND ABOUT 1-2 HOURS A DAY DRIVING. i also said i wanted to build a joystick controller etc for a truck game but so far no one has released a game that would let me do this, so actually that DOES answer your question.

bye

[Nokturnal]

Originally Posted by nicknackpaddywack

I didnt say i wanted a hardcore simulator. So take your head out your own ass a second so you can understand what im saying. All i was originally asking was why that image i linked on the first reply had a splitter switch. Until now i haven't seen any pictures with that item on them, i have been apealing for some realism on transmissions, THATS IT. The reason i want to play this game is because its going to be good. Its going to be fun, storyline and driving which they keep on saying is meant to be SO realistic. Me personally if i want a REAL experience i will just goto work.

Its not me that your frustration in an earlier post was directed at, as i don't care what they release. G25 support or not, i will still purchase this game purley for the entertainment value which i feel it offers, the added realism all along was a bonus.

So in future direct your patronising comments to someone else, im done here. This forum is full of morons anyway.

Also if you read what i wrote in response, i wasnt replying to you, i was replying to what QWX had said NOT YOU, BECAUSE I QUOTED HIM NOT YOU IN MY POST DURRRRRRRRRRRR, READ IT AGAIN AND IT WILL MAKE SENSE, I DONT DRIVE MANY MILES IN A TRUCK I SPEND ABOUT 1-2 HOURS A DAY DRIVING. i also said i wanted to build a joystick controller etc for a truck game but so far no one has released a game that would let me do this, so actually that DOES answer your question.

bye

Okay let me start off by saying, you were the one who started the personal attacks with the "smug mode" and your rather pointless reply to my comment in which you were only able to mock my using of the bold tags instead of coming up with a useful argument.
If you are all upset now, as you appear to be judging by all the capitalised words, and think i'm being "patronising" then maybe you shouldn't of brought it upon yourself by acting like a smug immature child. I put "smug" in bold, just for you.


Now, all that crap aside.
It actually seems like you know what i'm talking about, you say if you wanted a real truck driving experience then you would just go to work. Which begs the question, why are you even arguing with me?
It should of been obvious that my ranting was aimed at people such as pook (who has been complaining for months) and not those who are just looking for a fun game with "realistic" features.

My initial post was just directed at the public in general, as i've already posted something similar in another RnR thread after people started complaining.
You acknowledged this in your second paragraph:

Its not me that your frustration in an earlier post was directed at, as i don't care what they release.

Again, why the hell would you argue if you don't care and are not the person the post was directed at?

Clearly you are just one of those people who get their kicks out of starting arugments in online forums, about things they don't care about.

"Durrrr"? - Really? You claim to be 23 but you sound like a 10 year old most the time.
Yes i know you weren't responding to me with your last post, unlike you i am well aware when someone is talking to me specifically.
I still didn't think you had answered the question Qwx asked.
If we have established that RnR is not going to be like the real thing, how would you make up for not doing many miles in RL by playing this game?

Anyway, i guess i won't waste anymore time with this as you've decided to leave - Just remember, i wasn't even talking to you to begin with, you could of not replied and we could of avoided all this nonsense.

[Qwx]

Well, actually that answered a lot.. Doing engineering and stuff is always fun. It's kind of sad, that probably you won't be able to use Rig'n'Roll for your purposes. Still, Nokrutnal's words tay truth - this is a game with it's own vision...
May I suggest searching for an alternative to test out your shifter? Like open source project Rigs of Rods. I know it won't come close to Rig'n'Roll in some aspects, but otherwise, it's highly customizable and trucks there have 10< gears .
Well, we still can hope, that some sort of Development Kit, or sim upgrades would come out, but I wouldn't bet. In the end, the game will suit my needs

EDIT: ok, I haven't seen this page while writing reply (doh). My reply original was directed towards nicknackpaddywack. Nokturnal, you should stop these personal attacks. Your initial post was good, but don't let yourself to get carried away by it. Don't damage your reputation so much... Pook, and every sim fan. Well, sorry to get you tangled in here. So high modifiability patch is very wanted? We cross our fingers Nike-it :]