ok... who switched my B-17's armour for papier maché?

[MorgothNL]

The B-17 can take a lot more punishment then most other bombers in the game (when hitting the same spots on different bombers). But yeah, it could take way more punishment. But I gues that is balancing. I think it is 'ok' like this, it is pretty hard to take down, has a lot of guns,and a huge payload.

Making it even harder to take down would ruin the game by making the B-17 even more overpowered than it allready is. Just this night, I was in a strike game 4 vs 4. They had 2 b-17 and a blenheim (and a fighter). We had 3 A-20G's. our 700 tickets were gone within 5 mins, and they still had 530.

If you would ask me if they should change the B-17, then yes, but for the sake of gameplay I would say it should be nerfed.

[mattd27]

The other day I took down a B-17 with a 109 easily. I was so surprised as I thought it was going to be impossible, but me and another pilot ganged up on him and he never scored the whole flight!

[mdbuehler]

I'd been hearing how tough there were too from a few other threads, and the first time I came across one in Strike I downed it three times that game without too much trouble. Second time out he had a fighter escort, then it got tricky All in all, it didn't seem any harder or easier to shoot down.

[House MD 221B]

The auto-gunners suck, as with all auto-gunning in the game, thats fine, manual guns and they start to be effective, so yes if a couple of people gang up on a B-17 as they SHOULD then yes fair play no problem it should go down unless its a very good gunner or a couple of very bad fighter pilots.

im not saying it should be invincible, but taking out 1 engine doesnt = game over.

yes it is very heavily over-powered compared to ANYTHING else in the game, but maybe if they hadn't screwed over other aircraft as well instead of making quality damage models then it wouldnt be an issue.

and even if they come one at a time, if im lucky i can down 2 before the damage is so severe my elevators become USELESS.

and i know who hit me where, and when, and in what quantities, its not just a good engine shot, its a weak plane.

on the whole its a great plane it looks great it handles like a dream, its just got the tensile strength of freshly used public bathroom toilet paper.

and the gunner positions dont have the mobile range they should have, its laziness and shamefully baring in mind the tenants that they have upheld previously.

Im curious as to what made them slack off on this.

[Xx RTEK xX]

Yeah the damage numbers on this game suck. They really need to go back and fix some things.

Especially that B-17. I put a couple rounds into one online, and it went down.

[guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by Xx RTEK xX

Yeah the damage numbers on this game suck. They really need to go back and fix some things.

Especially that B-17. I put a couple rounds into one online, and it went down.

its better then not being able to be shoot it down at all

[House MD 221B]

Originally Posted by guiltyspark

its better then not being able to be shoot it down at all

only if you suck as a fighter pilot, there shouldn't be exceptions for people who don't know how to shoot right... LEARN.

nerfing plane armour to help idiots is not a noble cause for a destruction of a plane's stats.

learn the planes weak speaks and shoot right, you shouldn't be able to just clip a plane like that and it go down.

I suck as a fighter pilot, i get it, im ok with it, i AM however a good bomber pilot, and i should not be penalised for being a good bomber pilot and gunner, because other people aren't good at flying fighters either.

[FOZ_1983]

ALOT of elements in this game sucks. For £40 im allowed to be selfish. Or to put that £40 another way.... a full days work!!

The B17 takes far to long to unlock as it is...then its ridiculously weak and some guns dont fire where they should be able to, the P51... inaccurate.

The whole thing feels shoddy and like its been rushed.

The BoB campaign flying the spitfire Mk2...... why?? really?? realistically HOW HARD can it be to just get rid of the 2 cannons and also change the camo colour? its a piece of piss. I know im sounding like a selfish arrogant nasty little twat with all this but after speaking with a few of the forum regulars (xbox live players) on live, we all agreed that some things just didnt add up at all.

I for one absolutely love the game and can look past all these huge errors, i just feel slightly let down.

Give me grief and flame me all you want, i have broad shoulders i can take it. Mayve i deserve it, but as lnog as i got my 2 cents in, then i will happily take the shit im probably about to recieve.

[MorgothNL]

Originally Posted by FOZ_1983

ALOT of elements in this game sucks. And whats more is the fact that anton and co were ever present upto the release of the game and shortly after, but not now!! granted they are having hols etc, they deserve it. But some input from someone would be nice. Anyone!! selfish of me i know, but to be quite frank i dont care. For £40 im allowed to be selfish. Or to put that £40 another way.... a full days work!!

The B17 takes far to long to unlock as it is...then its ridiculously weak and some guns dont fire where they should be able to, the P51... inaccurate.

The whole thing feels shoddy and like its been rushed.

The BoB campaign flying the spitfire Mk2...... why?? really?? realistically HOW HARD can it be to just get rid of the 2 cannons and also change the camo colour? its a piece of piss. I know im sounding like a selfish arrogant nasty little twat with all this but after speaking with a few of the forum regulars (xbox live players) on live, we all agreed that some things just didnt add up at all.

I for one absolutely love the game and can look past all these huge errors, i just feel slightly let down.

Give me grief and flame me all you want, i have broad shoulders i can take it. Mayve i deserve it, but as lnog as i got my 2 cents in, then i will happily take the shit im probably about to recieve.

not going to flame you, even though a few things are a bit over the top.
The game is not perfect no, but the title update is going to make a lot of things right. You do realise this right?

I do agree that I think it is kind of strange that anton & co were so present here untill the release...and then nothing.

We just have to wait for the title update, to get really moneys worth. I can live with it , if this game is fixed, it will be the best game ever, and I wouldnt even mind paying double for it

[Vulcan607]

I was playing a strike match t`other day in which i in my spit mk2 played against 2 b-17 and got torn apart by duel machine guns, yet them suffering little damage from my cannons.