Could an FW190-D run down a ME-163C at 100ft?

[HauptmannMolders]

I'm happy so many people are playing this game but most seem to be playing arcade and in doing so, and this is only my opinion, you are completely missing the point and indeed the vast majority of development work that went into this. The REAL beauty of this game along with the graphics, is the variety of aircraft and their mutlitude of characteristics. I love that the 109 exceeds at running and gunning, I love that the Spit out turns it, I love that the 153 turns on a dime but is slow as shit etc.

So why does this 190 keep up with a 163? Because you are playing arcade and because its meant to be a completely leveling system on purpose and therefore discards most of the realism and all the work that went into this game to make it different from Blazing Angels, Heroes Over Europe, BF 1943 etc.

My advice is to try Realistic, turn your elevators down to half to start and then CAREFULLY select the airplane that best suits your style. Doing this, I gaurantee, will reward your quite correct thinking that a 163 should indeed outrun a 190D9 and by some margin I might add. Your understanding is right but you're playing a version of the game that actually handicaps accurate tactical thinking!

[akuma]

Thanks for the advice people.

The reason I play arcade is very simple, you can get a game there.

When I host a releastic game I can be sat for 20 minutes + trying to collect just 3 players, on arcade I get between 5 and 10 in 2 mintues tops.

[Ancient Seraph]

Wow, didn't think arcade was that arcade.. ah well, another reason not to even try it.

[akuma]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

Wow, didn't think arcade was that arcade.. ah well, another reason not to even try it.

Indeed, its such a shame they couldn't combine easy fun and performance in the same mode.

[Cwl]

yeah I played some arcade and wasn't impressed- too much like a video game.

[DoubleTap68]

Originally Posted by HauptmannMolders

I'm happy so many people are playing this game but most seem to be playing arcade and in doing so, and this is only my opinion, you are completely missing the point and indeed the vast majority of development work that went into this. The REAL beauty of this game along with the graphics, is the variety of aircraft and their mutlitude of characteristics. I love that the 109 exceeds at running and gunning, I love that the Spit out turns it, I love that the 153 turns on a dime but is slow as shit etc.

So why does this 190 keep up with a 163? Because you are playing arcade and because its meant to be a completely leveling system on purpose and therefore discards most of the realism and all the work that went into this game to make it different from Blazing Angels, Heroes Over Europe, BF 1943 etc.

My advice is to try Realistic, turn your elevators down to half to start and then CAREFULLY select the airplane that best suits your style. Doing this, I gaurantee, will reward your quite correct thinking that a 163 should indeed outrun a 190D9 and by some margin I might add. Your understanding is right but you're playing a version of the game that actually handicaps accurate tactical thinking!

Great post, quoted for emphasis. Couldn't agree more. Nothing inherently wrong with enjoying arcade, but there's so much more to this game when you make the jump to realistic/sim. What a game.

[Dubbedinenglish]

Originally Posted by DoubleTap68

Great post, quoted for emphasis. Couldn't agree more. Nothing inherently wrong with enjoying arcade, but there's so much more to this game when you make the jump to realistic/sim. What a game.

Second this. Me and me clanmate have been looking for games (and creating them) in sim never to get more than 5 people in a room. Now the game is really intense with 2v2s having to communicate to avoid friendly fire and to coordinate attacks and battleplans....Having a full server would be nice too.

[BadByte]

Think the reason arcade is popular is due to realistic's "stall happiness". Have good speed and try to pull off a manuver STALL. Come out of a dive and have superb speed and try to pull of a manuver STALL. Any manuver at any speed what so ever results in STALL unless piloting the plane like an old person drives a car (very very very sloooowly)

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by BadByte

Think the reason arcade is popular is due to realistic's "stall happiness". Have good speed and try to pull off a manuver STALL. Come out of a dive and have superb speed and try to pull of a manuver STALL. Any manuver at any speed what so ever results in STALL unless piloting the plane like an old person drives a car (very very very sloooowly)

The best thing to do in Realistic is to just ignore the stall warning. I mean, most of the turns I make the stall warning flashes in my screen, but nothing happens. Not sure why the dev's put it in there, especially with the low threshold.

[HauptmannMolders]

Originally Posted by BadByte

Think the reason arcade is popular is due to realistic's "stall happiness". Have good speed and try to pull off a manuver STALL. Come out of a dive and have superb speed and try to pull of a manuver STALL. Any manuver at any speed what so ever results in STALL unless piloting the plane like an old person drives a car (very very very sloooowly)

I cannot deny that yes they stall, some quite easily but I'm telling you adjust your elevators and you'll find it easier. Look some folks will only ever play arcade but here we are on the game creators website so I have to assume most folks on here are slightly more than your casual player. Again this is just me but what makes this game unique is that you actually have to pay attention to what you're doing, its hard on purpose! These planes used to fall out of the sky sometimes and the guys that flew them had to be very aware of this threshold and many many other things espeically managing your speed. You have got to keep your speed up, the quickest way to get killed is to fly too slowly and the quickest way to kill speed thankfully also happens to be the quickest way to stall and that is by yanking on the stick. If you manage your speed through proper stick control the co-benefit is you won't stall because you're yanking on the stick. If you don't like these things then enjoy arcade I totally get it BUT if you want to actually play what we are all excited about here, a flight combat SIMULATOR on a console then learn how to fly a plane. Flying sloooowly has absolutely nothing to do with it.