tips on no casualty run on impossible difficulty

[Razorflame]

Originally Posted by loreangelicus

A no casualty run presents a good enough challenge as it is, especially before dwarven lands since you still don't have Lina's Chargers for endless mana.

It might be possible to have no casualties without Resurrection, but that means avoiding tough battles altogether, killing your XP and lowering your score.

And then you still have to face some unavoidable tough battles like freeing the dwarf king's son, which I'm not even sure is possible to do without resurrect.

Shamans might not be an available choice since I didn't even attempt to take on the orc embassy even with resurrect; I might be wrong here... please correct me if it is possible to take the orc embassy without casualties on the first trip to Islands of Freedom.

har har i have killed the dwarfs son guards WITHOUT ressurrection! without gift!

i used

demonesses and necromancers inqi's evil beholder and shamans

it was QUITE EASY!!!!

i'm a mage no losses
got chaos on level 3 destroyer on level 3

first turn i use ice snake on red dragons(killing them all

then i use the necromancers to RAISE dead from the red dragons

and well..
all centering on the bone dragon will i kill the rest quite easy har har!

[loreangelicus]

I haven't played mage so I'm not on the up-and-up with mage tactics.

Interesting application of double-cast; kill the enemy and necro the dead on turn one. Nice!

[bucazaurus]

http://img132.imageshack.us/i/dwarfcastle.jpg/

Warrior on impossible.
Dwarf king's son castle

Tactic used : Invisibility lvl 1 on Ancient Vampire and Cloud of poison on enemy.
Combat ended in turn 31 with no losses.

Sometimes you get lucky with enemy's army composition,like in this case.

[loreangelicus]

On my initial flawed run-through I only saw Invisibility at Ellinia, so no luck there.

And while I could do a short trip to Demonis to pick up Lightning/Fire Rain/Ice Snake/Armaggedon I'm not a double-casting mage.

So it looks like the old tedious route for me, Inquisitors-Chargers-Resurrect, for my second run-through. I have Necro Call/Book of Evil/Phoenix as available decoys, but I'll try and see if I could do without these as the only summon spell worth its crystals is Phantom IMHO since it automatically scales with your leadership.

Nice screenshot of the enemy composition, but for me those bunch of Demonesses would cause fits for my Invisibility-less army.

[Razorflame]

anyone got a good idea to kill demons without magic shackles?

[BB Shockwave]

Originally Posted by Razorflame

anyone got a good idea to kill demons without magic shackles?

Slowing them does wonders. Sure they will run in first round, but after that (depending on your level of Slow) they will move 1 space only.

Also use no retaliation units, and attack them AFTER they have moved. Or, attack them with cloned units (phantom). The best option are units that can attack from one cell apart (demoness, Royal/etc Snakes, Robbers).

They might summon other demons, that's the only thing you have to worry about. The pentagram they conjure will make them tougher, but if they can't reach you...

That said, Mass Magic Shackles does wonders against Bhaal (practically takes his demon units out of the equation, and one mass slow next round will make it sure they are far away while you deal with the dragons and beholders)

Also some Demon slaying artifact will be usefull against them.

[Razorflame]

it depends on how u place the last hero at noric

if u have make a baatlefield with only 1-2 free slots to move to your units

(like in bridge fights)
i think when he goes up a ramp it should be possible to have only 1-2 open spaces where he can move through

now i u use last hero on it they will kill him(if it has a bigger field then your last hero won't work that properly since the cpu counts on how many shots it can kill someone)


and for killing

demons

i found two strats that could work

one is use necromancers and evil beholders(rest of the unit's don't matter although shamans could be a nice addition for their totems)

during first round use phantom on your necro's and let them cast the ability to let unit's not let their special abilities be used for 2 turns) and then use your units too kill them ASAP(or wait for a low stacked imp of scoffed imp for magic spring and chargers to get mana for resu)

use anga's ruby with dryads (phantom again and use lollaby) and the rest of your army kills the rest

[newfan]

Originally Posted by bucazaurus

http://img132.imageshack.us/i/dwarfcastle.jpg/

Warrior on impossible.
Dwarf king's son castle

Tactic used : Invisibility lvl 1 on Ancient Vampire and Cloud of poison on enemy.
Combat ended in turn 31 with no losses.

Sometimes you get lucky with enemy's army composition,like in this case.

Wow, someone with the same idea! But do you mean Poisonous Cloud (the spell)? and how did you manage no casualties with that low numbers of bats, plus lost of mana from invisibility and poison spell? I was thinking of using ancient bats (for dark commander) too but isn't initiative a problem for this battle?

I've never beaten the game before-kept re-running to demonis and thinking of better tactics-but I find demoness are better for this tactic. I was just able to beat Dwarf King's son at lvl 10. This was only my 2nd battle and Spirits are quite weak but was able to do so. How are you doing later in the game? I've never been beyond this point and am worried there are few units to charm later in the game (i.e. dragons).

Regarding the resurrection spell, I've never found any resurrection spell in a chest - I've found them as scrolls laying around but only twice throughout maybe 5 play-throughs to Demonis (barbarian island on Freedom island as Mage and the other in the cemetery as Warrior). I noticed, if you are a Mage, in the tomb where you find the chronicle scrolls quest there a buried chest that gives strong spells. Maybe you can find resurrection in it. Though I think the spell is overrated for not casualties on impossible.

[bucazaurus]

Cloud of poison from Sleem .Ancient Vampire bat form has high enough initiative to go first in combat .With wife Rina has +1 bonus .Invisibility lvl 1 cost 10 mana and stays 2 rounds.
So you cast Invisibility then use Cloud of poison and go Defend mode in first round. In second round you Wait. At the end of second round you Attack.
Then repeat.By the time you run out of mana and rage there wont be any more troops left. Just try to get Cloud of poison as high as you can before attacking the castle.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by bucazaurus

Cloud of poison from Sleem .Ancient Vampire bat form has high enough initiative to go first in combat .With wife Rina has +1 bonus .Invisibility lvl 1 cost 10 mana and stays 2 rounds.
So you cast Invisibility then use Cloud of poison and go Defend mode in first round. In second round you Wait. At the end of second round you Attack.
Then repeat.By the time you run out of mana and rage there wont be any more troops left. Just try to get Cloud of poison as high as you can before attacking the castle.

Cloud of poison is a great idea since the enemies don't move around much. I noticed that I am depending heavily on rage to win battles against stacks twice the leadership of my demoness charm ability. I wonder how you manage to keep your rage so high without being attack. I'm thinking to switching to dryad stack for thorns (take damage and build up rage) + dryads have no retaliation but they are more of a defensive than offensive unit. Another dilemma that i need to solve are enemy thorn units who can detect invisible (very large stacks on elven islands).

I am very much in need of demon weapon Demetrius. I ran to all the shops available in demon world and elf and no luck... Does anyone know where I can find the weapon?